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Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 03 Mar 2017 09:44
by Kateg90
Hi all
I'm new round here and just looking to connect with other people maybe doing the same or similar searches to mine to get further than I am at the moment.

For a while, the majority of my search has taken place within the Dublin records as that's where my family originates. I've always known obviously that we end up in Liverpool but recently found 2 members of my Mahon family in beaconsfield orphanage and although I've known for a while that they went there it was always assumed it was after the death of their father, this turned out not to be the case they were infact left destitute when their mother went to prison and their father was classed as a "worthless" fellow :lol:

Anyway... I've been to the central library and I just can't seem to get what I'm looking for. At the time the first boy went into the orphanage (April 1899) his mother is in prison and they are living in bootle. Does anyone have any idea what prison they would have gone to or where they would have been tried? When I look at the records at the library they're all based within the centre of Liverpool if that makes sense. Or the kirkdale ones which cover fazakerley, aintree etc

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks :)

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 03 Mar 2017 10:55
by retiringtype
Welcome Kate

What was the mother's name ?

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 03 Mar 2017 11:05
by Kateg90
Hi. Sorry should have put more into.
The children were called Christopher and Peter Mahon. The mother and father were Alice Mahon (was Kinsella) and the father Thomas Mahon. Thomas died 1901 and she went on to marry their former lodger James Murphy in 1903.

My thoughts are that if she went to prison and lost her children it must have been a regular thing for her and Thomas so I'd love to see why she went, how often, etc

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 03 Mar 2017 14:22
by retiringtype
Can't see anything in newspaper reports. You might try the Sefton Local Studies people at Crosby Library.

NB its Beacon Lane orphanage not Beaconsfield.

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 03 Mar 2017 17:36
by Kateg90
Ah so it is!
Ok great thanks for looking :)

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 04 Mar 2017 08:24
by Katie
You could try looking in Kirkdale Petty Sessions records. These court records are in the Merseyside Record Office collection separate to Liverpool Archives records.

Details of what is in the collection.

Ref No M347 PSK
Title Kirkdale Petty Sessions
Description 1. Minute Books, 1927-1964
2. Court Registers, 1885-1955
3. Juvenile Court Registers, 1941-1955
4. Warrant Books, 1930-1942
5. Maintenance Orders, 1946-1955
6. Financial Records, 1949-1957
7. Licensing Registers, 1903-1962
8. Licensing Plans,1903-1961
9. West Derby Hundred Sessions Magistrates Attendance Book, 1902-1935
Date 1885-1962
Level Collection
Access_Conditions Access will be given to any accredited reader

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 11 Aug 2018 10:53
by n3ttl3
Hi Kate

If we have the same Mahon's -

thanks to David C Mahon for the following information.

Simon Mahon (son of Thomas Mahon and Alice Kinsella) was born 29 October 1886 in Bootle Lancashire, England./Lancashire, England, and died 12 May 1961 in Bootle, Lancashire,England..He married Margaret Rice on 5 July 1906 in St. Winefred's R.C. Church Bootle Merseyside., daughter of Peter Rice and Mary Jane Boyle.
Includes NotesNotes for Simon Mahon:
Started work aged 12 as a boiler-scaler down Bootle Docks,later ran away to sea. Presented to HRH The Prince of Wales on 5 July 1921.Conferred with the Papal Honour "Crux Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice " by the Archbishop of Liverpool (Dr. Richard Downey) at Bootle Town Hall 24 June 1948.
An excerpt from the Bootle times dated Friday 12th May 1961 reads:-
BOOTLE LOSES A GREAT WORKER BY THE DEATH OF ALDERMAN SIMON MAHON
Leader and Longest serving member of Bootle Council:
Former Mayor of the town.
After a lifetime of good work for the people of Bootle, the Socialist leader of the Council, Alderman Simon Mahon, O.B.E., J.P., died in Walton Hospital on Friday evening after a long illness. The news was quickly flashed round the borough and flags on schools and at the Town Hall were lowered to half mast.
Resident of 20 Oxford Road Bootle, Alderman Mahon was a member of Bootle Council for 41 years, the longest serving member at the present time. Tributes to him were paid before a meeting of the Selection Committee at which all members of the Council were present last night.
Alderman Mahon was a firm Believer in the socialist movement right from the days of his youth and he first entered Bootle Council in 1918 as a representative for Knowsley's ward where he served until 1928, when he became the borough's first Alderman.
He was elected Mayor of Bootle in 1949-1950 and was the first Roman Catholic to hold that position in 16 years. Many older residents of the town will remember his year of office as being the one when the children had their first camping holiday, yet it was Alderman Mahon who organized Bootle's first summer camp for poor children.
Education went to his heart
During his years on the council he has served on many committees including the watch committee the parliamentary Committee and the Education Committee. The latter was very dear to his heart and he was proud of the number of schools erected after the war.
In 1945 he was elected a Justice of the Peace and in the 1950 birthday honours list he was awarded the O.B.E., In 1948 he was awarded the papal Honour of the Croce pro Ecclesia et Pontificate, for his services to the Catholicism.
Alderman Mahon has been a trade unionist nearly all his working life and was an active member of the Transport and General Workers Union of which he had been secretary. He was a Past chairman of the Bootle Trades and Labour Council and a member of the executive.
In the 1955 General Election he unsuccessfully contended the Exchange division of Liverpool for Labour.
Alderman Mahon leaves a widow, four son's two daughters and seventeen grandchildren. One son Eric was killed in the war. One son Simon is Member of Parliament for Bootle and a member of Bootle Council. Another Peter, is an Alderman and chairman of the Bootle Council Finance Committee, a third, Joseph, is a former member of the Council, and forth, Leo is employed at the Town Hall. One daughter Miss Francis Mahon is a schoolteacher, and the other Mrs, Noreen Mc Monighan, lives in Ireland.
Bootle Conservatives were holding a meeting at St John's Hallon Friday evening when they were informed of Alderman Mahon's death and they stood for a moments silence.
Court Tribute.
Before the commencement of Monday's sitting of the Magistrates Court, tributes were paid to Alderman Mahon.
" He has done great work for the people of Bootle and we shall miss him." Said Mr, Chris Williams " Alderman Simon Mahon was a member of this branch for 20 years I have known him for about 17 years and have always held him in the greatest esteem.
Mr F Helm Clerk to the Justices said that he had always found Alderman Mahon to have an alert mind and was ready to help all. We have always tried to be a good friend.
Superintendent M Jenkins ( Deputy Chief Constable ) said Alderman Mahon had been a man of great stature, showing much sympathy to the Borough Police Force expressed his condolences to the Alderman's family and concluded by saying "we shall all miss this wonderful man."
More About Simon Mahon:
1: 8 June 1950, Awarded The O.B.E. .
2: 3 March 1925, appointed A Justice Of The Peace..
3: 24 June 1948, Awarded The Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice (Papal Medal).
4: 1928, Elected Alderman-County Borough of Bootle.
5: 1936, Labour Parliamentary candidate-Lpool Exchange.
6: Bet. 1929 - 1930, Mayor of Bootle.
Burial: Bootle Cemetary.
Elected 1: Bet. 1918 - 1928, Councillor Knowsley ward.
Elected 2: Bet. 1949 - 1950, Lord Mayor of Bootle.

After all that, hope it's the same ones!! they are related to My Carey's through the Kinsella's, Alice was sister to my G-G-Aunt Ellen Kinsella.

All the best
Annette

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 11 Aug 2018 15:05
by Blue70
n3ttl3 wrote:
11 Aug 2018 10:53
Hi Kate

If we have the same Mahon's -

thanks to David C Mahon for the following information.

Simon Mahon (son of Thomas Mahon and Alice Kinsella) was born 29 October 1886 in Bootle Lancashire, England./Lancashire, England, and died 12 May 1961 in Bootle, Lancashire,England..He married Margaret Rice on 5 July 1906 in St. Winefred's R.C. Church Bootle Merseyside., daughter of Peter Rice and Mary Jane Boyle.
Includes NotesNotes for Simon Mahon:
Started work aged 12 as a boiler-scaler down Bootle Docks,later ran away to sea. Presented to HRH The Prince of Wales on 5 July 1921.Conferred with the Papal Honour "Crux Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice " by the Archbishop of Liverpool (Dr. Richard Downey) at Bootle Town Hall 24 June 1948.
An excerpt from the Bootle times dated Friday 12th May 1961 reads:-
BOOTLE LOSES A GREAT WORKER BY THE DEATH OF ALDERMAN SIMON MAHON
Leader and Longest serving member of Bootle Council:
Former Mayor of the town.
After a lifetime of good work for the people of Bootle, the Socialist leader of the Council, Alderman Simon Mahon, O.B.E., J.P., died in Walton Hospital on Friday evening after a long illness. The news was quickly flashed round the borough and flags on schools and at the Town Hall were lowered to half mast.
Resident of 20 Oxford Road Bootle, Alderman Mahon was a member of Bootle Council for 41 years, the longest serving member at the present time. Tributes to him were paid before a meeting of the Selection Committee at which all members of the Council were present last night.
Alderman Mahon was a firm Believer in the socialist movement right from the days of his youth and he first entered Bootle Council in 1918 as a representative for Knowsley's ward where he served until 1928, when he became the borough's first Alderman.
He was elected Mayor of Bootle in 1949-1950 and was the first Roman Catholic to hold that position in 16 years. Many older residents of the town will remember his year of office as being the one when the children had their first camping holiday, yet it was Alderman Mahon who organized Bootle's first summer camp for poor children.
Education went to his heart
During his years on the council he has served on many committees including the watch committee the parliamentary Committee and the Education Committee. The latter was very dear to his heart and he was proud of the number of schools erected after the war.
In 1945 he was elected a Justice of the Peace and in the 1950 birthday honours list he was awarded the O.B.E., In 1948 he was awarded the papal Honour of the Croce pro Ecclesia et Pontificate, for his services to the Catholicism.
Alderman Mahon has been a trade unionist nearly all his working life and was an active member of the Transport and General Workers Union of which he had been secretary. He was a Past chairman of the Bootle Trades and Labour Council and a member of the executive.
In the 1955 General Election he unsuccessfully contended the Exchange division of Liverpool for Labour.
Alderman Mahon leaves a widow, four son's two daughters and seventeen grandchildren. One son Eric was killed in the war. One son Simon is Member of Parliament for Bootle and a member of Bootle Council. Another Peter, is an Alderman and chairman of the Bootle Council Finance Committee, a third, Joseph, is a former member of the Council, and forth, Leo is employed at the Town Hall. One daughter Miss Francis Mahon is a schoolteacher, and the other Mrs, Noreen Mc Monighan, lives in Ireland.
Bootle Conservatives were holding a meeting at St John's Hallon Friday evening when they were informed of Alderman Mahon's death and they stood for a moments silence.
Court Tribute.
Before the commencement of Monday's sitting of the Magistrates Court, tributes were paid to Alderman Mahon.
" He has done great work for the people of Bootle and we shall miss him." Said Mr, Chris Williams " Alderman Simon Mahon was a member of this branch for 20 years I have known him for about 17 years and have always held him in the greatest esteem.
Mr F Helm Clerk to the Justices said that he had always found Alderman Mahon to have an alert mind and was ready to help all. We have always tried to be a good friend.
Superintendent M Jenkins ( Deputy Chief Constable ) said Alderman Mahon had been a man of great stature, showing much sympathy to the Borough Police Force expressed his condolences to the Alderman's family and concluded by saying "we shall all miss this wonderful man."
More About Simon Mahon:
1: 8 June 1950, Awarded The O.B.E. .
2: 3 March 1925, appointed A Justice Of The Peace..
3: 24 June 1948, Awarded The Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice (Papal Medal).
4: 1928, Elected Alderman-County Borough of Bootle.
5: 1936, Labour Parliamentary candidate-Lpool Exchange.
6: Bet. 1929 - 1930, Mayor of Bootle.
Burial: Bootle Cemetary.
Elected 1: Bet. 1918 - 1928, Councillor Knowsley ward.
Elected 2: Bet. 1949 - 1950, Lord Mayor of Bootle.

After all that, hope it's the same ones!! they are related to My Carey's through the Kinsella's, Alice was sister to my G-G-Aunt Ellen Kinsella.

All the best
Annette
Buried in RC section 1 grave 10 in Bootle Cemetery.

Burial Register (left page): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1910606

Burial Register (right page): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1910606

Grave Register (10): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1910606


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Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 11 Aug 2018 16:51
by n3ttl3
thanks Blue70 :)

Re: Prison registers - bootle area 1890s

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 18:48
by lynne99
Simon senior had 4 sons (I believe ) and 2 daughters. Simon Junior lived in Southport road at the junction of Hatfield Rd and was the MP for Bootle for a long time. His younger brother lived in Radnor Drive and was an Alderman and eventually MP for Preston South.
As a point of interest, Bootle does not have a Lord Mayor, only a Mayor as it is not a city. Sorry to be pedantic.