Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

I live in Australia and do not know where/which areas to be looking for records for a Liverpool birth c 1800. My ancestor was born around that time, native place Liverpool and I cannot find him. He lived in Bannister Street when he was convicted of Burglary, aged 21/22 when transported. John DICKROW b c 1800 transported 1821 arriving Van Diemens Land[Tasmania] in 1822. Fisherman by trade. Named his only child Thomas Richard DICKROW
I have found a Thomas DICKROW also born about 1800, married Jan 1821 then disappears, also a fisherman from Liverpool.
Can anyone please direct me to the best online places to search for these two gentS. Feel I have to find both to eliminate them being the same person.
i have access to Ancestry Library, but feel I need more U K sites

A.K.A. DUCKROW

Thanks in advance Cheers Patty

Hi Patty and welcome,

If you haven't seen it,

Westmorland Gazette, April 7, 1821.

Other newspaper snippets gives the name as Stephen Walcott,

1821 Liverpool Gores Directory,

Stephen Walcott, Merchant
13 Mansfield Street
Liverpool.

Stephen Walcott pops up in the Slave Registers.

Still looking for John

patted9 wrote: I have found a Thomas DICKROW also born about 1800, married Jan 1821 then disappears, also a fisherman from Liverpool.

Hi and welcome to the forum. Can you tell us where you have found this Thomas Dickrow - ie which of the databases his birth and marriages were listed on.

Mary,

I think it's Thomas Duckrow,



Thomas Duckrow
Sarah Roberts
Marriage
Event Date:
25 Jan 1821
Parish:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England

On FMP there is also a description of John Dickrow and I think it refers to a tattoo, Thomas Dickrow in Blue ?ink on hand?

Hi everyone there is a John Duckrow who marries in Hobart Town in 1834 to Ellen Halley. He is recorded as a convict bachelor, she is a spinster. Thomas Richard Duckrow bn 1835 mother Ellen father THOMAS...baptised 1836 ditto parents.

Marriage: 25 Jan 1821 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
Thomas Duckrow - Fisherman, the Parish of Liverpool
Sarah Roberts - (X), Spinster
Witness: M. Joseph; John Roberts, (X)
Married by Banns by: T. Kidd, Curate
Register: Marriages 1820 - 1821, Page 161, Entry 32
Source: LDS Film 93917


Blue

I'm wondering if this surname was originally Decrow, Ducro, or Ducrow with French, possibly Huguenot roots. The surname appears in London and the south east of England. It could have come to Liverpool from London and the south east or via French or French Huguenot emigrants to America who sailed between America and Liverpool:-

http://www.redherringsandwhitelies.co.u ... amily.html

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Wiq ... ow&f=false


Blue

Blue70 wrote:I'm wondering if this surname was originally Decrow, Ducro, or Ducrow with French, possibly Huguenot roots.

That would be so interesting, wonder if our poster has thought of this ?

There are trees on Ancestry that have the spelling for the man who went to Australia as Ducrow he drowned in 1836 didn't he? Coincidently there was a John Ducrow who married an Eleanor Minter in Liverpool in 1829 perhaps a relation? This John Ducrow according to Ancestry trees was born in or around London c1796, died 1834 in London, son of John Peter Ducrow a Belgian "Strongman" performer and Margaret Ross. No Thomas listed among the children.


Blue

John Duckrow/Ducrow/Dickrow convict 261 married Ellen Halley/Harley/Haley in Van Diemens Land [Tasmania], they had one child Thomas Richard Duckrow/Ducrow who is my g.g.g grandfather. John drowned at Prime Seal Island off Flinders Island in 1836.

I am trying to prove/disprove that Thomas and John are the same person.
Thank you all for the added information you have given me.
I knew John had tattoos but had not found a description of them.

MaryA wrote:

patted9 wrote: I have found a Thomas DICKROW also born about 1800, married Jan 1821 then disappears, also a fisherman from Liverpool.

Hi and welcome to the forum. Can you tell us where you have found this Thomas Dickrow - ie which of the databases his birth and marriages were listed on.

I found it with F M P search for Dickrow b c 1800 Liverpool Lancaster.
Came up with Thomas, first time Duckrow is mentioned there looks like a dot over the first loop of the u making it look like a i. The convict indent for John also have the same problem. But he is referred to as DUCKROW & DUCROE in other areas.

Bertieone wrote:Mary,

I think it's Thomas Duckrow,



Thomas Duckrow
Sarah Roberts
Marriage
Event Date:
25 Jan 1821
Parish:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England

On FMP there is also a description of John Dickrow and I think it refers to a tattoo, Thomas Dickrow in Blue ?ink on hand?

Hi "Bertieone" I had not seen that tat, and have now deciphered the writing as best I can, gives more information that the convict Indent does, that only mentions marks and figures on both arms. Sounds more than likely they are the same person. Can you please tell me exactly where you found it as I cannot find it on FMP . I would like to see the rest of the writing if possible.. Thank you

Blue70 wrote:I'm wondering if this surname was originally Decrow, Ducro, or Ducrow with French, possibly Huguenot roots. The surname appears in London and the south east of England. It could have come to Liverpool from London and the south east or via French or French Huguenot emigrants to America who sailed between America and Liverpool:-

http://www.redherringsandwhitelies.co.u ... amily.html

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Wiq ... ow&f=false


Blue

I have many variations of the name. Duckrow/Ducrow,Ducroe, Ducqro,Ducroix and many more. I am looking at this particular name, my 4 x grandfather, convict. i have most of his descendants but none of his ancestors. Tricky bunch to find. even considering a DNA option.
Cheers Patty

Hi Patty,

Categories, Institutions & Organisations.

England, Wales, Crime & Punishment, 1770-1935,

MaryA wrote:

Blue70 wrote:I'm wondering if this surname was originally Decrow, Ducro, or Ducrow with French, possibly Huguenot roots.

That would be so interesting, wonder if our poster has thought of this ?

I have several variations on the name. including the above, Ducroe, Ducroix, du Crow and more. it is an unusual name with so many variants which did surprise me greatly when I began researching.

Bertieone wrote:Hi Patty,

Categories, Institutions & Organisations.

England, Wales, Crime & Punishment, 1770-1935,

thanks Bert, much appreciated, I had looked at Crime and Punishments but somehow missed that description..