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Some help from the forum please, Re my late Aunty, Stella Bewley, Nee Fletcher.
I have Just received from my Cousin a copy of an auto biography completed by Stella shortly before her death in 2013, she was a month off her 95th birthday.
As you can imagine it was a fascinating read.
I met Stella for the first and last time in October 2011 at the Ramada Southport. I asked Stella to tell me about her Mother Eliza Fletcher, nee Johnston. She told me that she knew very little about her Mum other than there was a lot trouble prior her wedding back in 1909, Elisa was Catholic and her Husband was protestant, so Stella would not be drawn on the subject.
So I was somewhat surprised when reading Stella's biography that her Mum is mentioned. I quote "My Mothers name was Eliza, her maiden name was Johnston, her Mothers name was Jones. Eliza had three sisters, Kate, Cissy and Mary, two brothers, Andrew and George. Eliza was born in Wavertree, Liverpool, circa 1885".
I have checked for Eliza's birth on free BMD but can find no record. Maybe Wavertree has not been covered yet.
I would be very grateful if the forum could throw some light on Eliza and her parents and siblings.
Thanking you in advance. Gareth

Alfred Fletcher, Eliza Johnston, 1909, West Derby, 8b 679

1911


Name:
Alfred Fletcher

Age in 1911:
27
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1884
Relation to Head:
Head
Gender:
Male
Birth Place:
Liverpool, Toxteth
Civil Parish:
Wavertree
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Street address:
3 Grosvenor Road Liverpool
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Coal Mechant
Registration district:
West Derby
Registration District Number:
455
Sub-registration district:
Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel:
3
Piece:
22656
Alfred Fletcher 27
Eliza Fletcher 24, Bn, 1887, Toxteth.

One child born, died.

?
Births Sep 1886
Johnston Eliza Toxteth Park 8b 182

Transcription error, Fletcher.

Marriage,


Name:
Eliza Johnston
Birth Year:
abt 1886
Age:
23
Marriage Date:
31 May 1909
Parish:
Wavertree, St Bridget
Spouse's Name:
Alfred Hetcher
Father's Name:
George Johnston
Spouse Father's Name:
Jacob Hetcher

Good going Bert, I didn't expect the marriage to be available online but it was

The Johns[t]on family in 1891?

RG12 Piece 2925 Folio 121 Page 9
Address: 71 Wolfe Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
George Johnson Head 34 1857 Carter - Liverpool
Catherine Johnson Wife 23 1858 - Liverpool
James Johnson Son 9 1882 Scholar - Liverpool
Catherine Johnson Dtr 7 1884 Scholar - Liverpool
Eliza Johnson Dtr 4 1887 - Liverpool
Mary Johnson Dtr 2 1889 - Liverpool
Richard Johnson Son 0 1891 - Liverpool
George Johnson Son 1 1890 - Liverpool

1901:
RG13 Piece 3429 Folio 49 Page 1
Address: 5 Shelley Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
George Johnston Head 43 1858 General Carter - Liverpool
Catherine Johnston Wife 42 1859 - Liverpool
George Johnston Son 12 1889 - Liverpool
Andrew Johnston Son 9 1892 - Liverpool
Robert Johnston Son 7 1894 - Liverpool
Sarah Johnston Dtr 5 1896 - Liverpool

Beat me to it DS, I believe you are correct in those censuses, confirmed by the witness to their marriage being Sarah whose marriage in 1917 to John Robert Jones shows her as 21 years old, so matches the 1901 census.

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Dec 1878: JOHNSTON George and CLARK, Catherine - Liverpool [at St Peter's] 8b 240

dickiesam wrote:Parents' marriage?

Marriages Dec 1878: JOHNSTON George and CLARK, Catherine - Liverpool [at St Peter's] 8b 240

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNSW-B5P

Catherine Clark in 1861?

RG09 Piece 2699 Folio 122 Page 18
Address: 9 Harrisons Buildings, 5 Mann Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Richd Clarke Head 30 1831 Dock Labourer - Liverpool
Eliza Clarke Wife 30 1831 - Liverpool
Catherine Clarke Dtr 4 1857 - Liverpool
John Andrew Clarke Son 0 1861 - Liverpool

And in 1871?
RG10 Piece 3797 Folio 128 Page 30
Address: 1 House, 8 Court, 1 Prince William Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Richard Clark Head 39 1832 Dock labourer - Liverpool.
Eliza Clark Wife 39 1832 - Liverpool
Catharine Clark Dtr 14 1857 - Liverpool
John Clark Son 11 1860 - Liverpool
Margaret Clark Dtr 9 1862 - Liverpool
Anne E Clark Dtr 6 1865 - Liverpool
Patrick McMactas Boarder 28 1843 Forge labourer - Scotland
Ellen McMactas Boarder 28 1843 - Scotland

Johnston family in 1910+1...

Address: 104 South Chester St, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
George Johnston Head 54 1857 Dock labourer - Liverpool
Catherine Johnston Wife 33 1878 - Liverpool
George Johnston Son u/m 22 1889 Quay carter - Liverpool
Andrew Johnston Son u/m 19 1892 Office boy - Liverpool
Robert Johnston Son u/m 18 1893 General carter - Liverpool
Sarah Ann Johnston Dtr 16 1895 - Liverpool

Marriage, 1856
Richard Clark, Eliza Jane Rogers, Widow.



https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN9B-ZCL

Johnston family in 1881!

RG11 Piece 3638 Folio 42 Page 11
Address: 147, Wolfe Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool.
Geo Johnstone Head 24 1857 Carter - Liverpool
Catharine Johnstone Wife 21 1860 - Liverpool
Eliza Jane Johnstone Dtr 1 1880 - Liverpool
Margt Clarke Sister-in-law Md 19 1862 Charwoman - Liverpool
Mary Clarke Niece 1 1880 - Liverpool

Bert, Mary And DS.
One word for it, Marvellous. I had gone out for a couple of hours and when I came back, job done .
I think the only one that did not fit in was Andrew ??.Don't forget Stella was getting on in years.
One thing Bert reminded me of was the child death in the 1911 census. one of the forum said that it was probably Alfred Fletcher, must get the death cert to make sure, but it fits. To save confusion this was from a previous thread.
Thank you so much for your endeavours.
Gareth.

One last thing.
Which St Peter was the wedding of George Johnston and Catherine Clark in Dec 1878 held?
Thanks . Gareth.

St Peter's Church Street, the Pro Cathedral. If you look at the pavement outside Next you will see a cross set in the pavement commemorating it.

MaryA.
Thank you for your prompt reply. Sorry another question. All of my old Fletcher relatives were married or baptised there in the early to mid 19th century and all of them, as far as i know, were C of E .So would Roman Catholics have been allowed to marry at St Peters, Church St ?
The reason i ask is that Stella Bewleys Mum, Eliza was supposedly Catholic, but we have a record of Eliza's Parents marrying at St Peters in December 1878 Maybe I've lost the plot. I just hope one of the forum can help me find it again.
Thanks. Gareth

Hope this helps, Gareth.

http://www.kent-opc.org/hardwickesact.html

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... actind.htm