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Hello - I am interested in Robert Roskell of Liverpool who was a watch and clockmaker of some high degree. I know he lived in Gateacre in the early 19thc 1827 to be exact. He died in about 1855. . He lived in Gateacre Hall - which I am researching for'The Gateacre Society' on-line.
Sadly it was demolished sometime in about c1920 I am looking for a picture of it, and if anyone can help, I would be grateful.
Thank you.
Joan B

Hi and welcome to the forum.

If nobody comes up with a picture, and at that date it may well be a Herdman print that is found, then there are a number of Facebook Groups (search with the word Liverpool) where people hold copies of photographs which they are willing to share. I believe there is also a Group by the name of Woolton and Gateacre History and Chat.

An old thread for reference:-

https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... =2&t=13872


Blue

Good find! I hope that gives Joan a bit of background.

A story thrown up by the British Newspaper Archive said that Gateacre Hall used to be called 'The Nook'. There is a picture of that building here (REF: 4621):

http://www.liverpool-city-group.com/cgi ... records=Go

As per the link I posted this c1840s map below appears to show that "Gateacre House" was originally at the top of Gateacre Brow when the Roskell family lived there. I'm not aware of any pictures of this incarnation of the house, the later house of the same name in Grange Lane is in "Gateacre & Belle Vale" by Beryl Plent and Mike Chitty (pages 48 & 49) but this is not Robert Roskell's home. An 1893 map shows the Gateacre House at the top of Gateacre Brow as Gateacre Hall. The building no longer appears to be there on a c1900s map.





Blue

Hello member 8038 - I see you are researching the Holland famly?
which one please.

Gateacre Hall was on Acrefield Road, opposite Gateacre Brow.
Gateacre House was on Grange Lane........
Gateacre Hall Hotel was in Halewood Road - prior to that I think it was 'the Nook' where Rev.William Shepherd lived.
Gateacre Hall as well was part of the Woolton Hill estate......
and contained about 30,000 sq.yards.....
other families living there after Robert Roskell, was John Topham, and then John Weston, and then James Leishman.....
Gateacre was a Township within Little Woolton.and Much Woolton
Have a look at the Gateacre Society website.....especially 'Gateacre Walks' Woolton Hill.
Joan

Gateacre Hall was said to be on the corner of Woolton Hill Road
Joan

Robert Roskell marr Anne Kaye at St. Paul, Liverpool, but all their children were baptised at St. Mary, Woolton ( the old Chapel)
Does anyone know where Anne Kaye was born, and where she died.
She came from a Catholic family also.
Joan

For the confirmation of dates, the marriage was 3rd October 1808, and I notice two of the witnesses were also Ann Kaye and Joseph Kaye. This also confirms that Ann was of the same Parish.


I wonder if you have the Marriage Licence?

Some entries from the directories around the time may be of help.

The 1825 Baines Street Directory lists
Joseph Kaye at 39 Union Street (off Oldhall Street)
John Kaye at 39 Bold Street
John Kaye at 2 Brooks Square (34 North East Corner, Old Dock)
Thomas Kaye at 45 Castle Street
J.A. Kaye at 27 Chapel Street
Thomas Kaye at 32 Pembroke Place
M.L. Kaye, at 23 Norton Street
Margaret Kaye at 87 London Road
Wm Kaye at 55 Lime Street
John Kaye at 64 Gr Crosshall Street


There is also a companies by the name of
Prest & Kaye, 24 Lower Castle Street and 6 Fenwick Street
Kaye & Hilton, 7 Fleet Street

The 1827 Gores Directory
Kaye Allan, attorney, 39, Pembroke place ; office, 67, Castle st
David, blacksmith, 2, Upper Pownall street
Edward, broker and accountant, 15, Daulby street
Esther, 8, Gilbert street
Jeremiah, slater and plasterer, 4, Pepper st. Richmond row
John, gentleman, 39, Bold street
John Abbott, spirit mercht. Litherland; vaults, 19, Chapel st
John, flour dealer, 18, Dryden st; shop, 64, Gt. Crosshall st
John, flour dealer, 10, Croston street
Joseph, mercer and draper, 40, shop, 39, Union street
Joseph, household broker, 11, Stanley street
Judith, 3, Bolton street, Edge hill
Sarah, 42, Finch street
Kaye Stephen, plasterer, 20, Pellew street
Thomas, printer, stationer, and publisher of the Liverpool Courier, 35, Pembroke place ; shop, 45, Castle street
William, carver and gilder, 57, Lime street

The 1790 Gores Directory
Kaye Mrs. Elizabeth, 37. Union st.
Kaye Ellen, mangle, 32, St. Paul's square
Kaye James, cowkeeper, 9, Crosshall st.
Kaye Jeremiah, staymaker, 45, Lord st.
Kaye Jeremiah, plaisterer, 35, Cheapside
Kaye John, chairmaker, back of 75, Crosshall st.
Kaye John, clockmaker, 7, Wyke's court, Dale st.
Kaye John, officer in the customs, 19, Moorfields
Kaye Joseph, linen merchant, 37, Union st. Warehouse, 38, ditto
Kaye Mary, yarnmaker, 32, Moorfields
Kaye Mrs. Leah, 83, Duke street
Kaye Minshull, victualler, 14, Bird st., Dry Dock. Joiner's shop, 22, Fazakerley st.
Kaye Peter, shoemaker, 72, Stanley st. Kaye Sarah, victualler, 22, Tythebarn st.
Kaye William, mealman, 20, William, st., Dale st.
Kaye Wm. victualler, 14, Cases st., Ranelagh st.

jborrowscale wrote:Hello member 8038 - I see you are researching the Holland famly?
which one please.

Gateacre Hall was on Acrefield Road, opposite Gateacre Brow.
Gateacre House was on Grange Lane........
Gateacre Hall Hotel was in Halewood Road - prior to that I think it was 'the Nook' where Rev.William Shepherd lived.
Gateacre Hall as well was part of the Woolton Hill estate......
and contained about 30,000 sq.yards.....
other families living there after Robert Roskell, was John Topham, and then John Weston, and then James Leishman.....
Gateacre was a Township within Little Woolton.and Much Woolton
Have a look at the Gateacre Society website.....especially 'Gateacre Walks' Woolton Hill.
Joan

Yes Gateacre Hall, called on this map below Gateacre House, was at the top of Gateacre Brow off Acrefield Road. My Holland family were from Ireland any Irish Hollands?

c1840s





Blue

jborrowscale wrote:Gateacre Hall was said to be on the corner of Woolton Hill Road
Joan

If you look at my 1840s map you will see Woolton Hill Road (not named) to the north of the grounds of the house itself so Gateacre Hall could be said to be off Acrefield Road, at the top of Gateacre Brow and on the corner of Woolton Hill Road.


Blue