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Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 24 Feb 2016 17:39
by daggers
I cannot find a family called Thomas. In 1861 they were at Upper Hope Place in Liverpool: father Henry Thomas, shipowner's clerk, with wife Margaret (second name Elizabeth but not always used. ) Children: Henry, 11, Arthur 9, Amy E 6, Rebecca G 4. All were born in Liverpool.
In 1881 Margaret was a widow living at 25 Dryden Road with the four children, by now adults. She was described as 'property owner'.
Where could they be in '71? I have not found a death for Henry senior, nor a probate but there are several possibles in FreeBMD. I am not too bothered about his death, except for tidiness. Margaret died in 1888 but her probate was not granted until 1916.
Any clues would be welcomed.
Daggers
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 24 Feb 2016 19:01
by Bertieone
Amy & Rebecca ?
Haymans Green, School?
RG10 P3848 F46 Page27,
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... ource=8767
Page 28 for Rebecca
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 24 Feb 2016 19:11
by Bertieone
Henry Thomas Head - Male 46 1825 - Lancashire, Englan
Margaret Thomas Wife - Female 51 1820 - Lancashire, England
Henry Thomas Son - Male 21 1850 - Lancashire, England
Arthur M Thomas Son - Male 19 1852 - Lancashire, England
Thomas Smith Nephew - Male 19 1852 - Northumberland, England
Esther ??? Boarder - Female 4 1867 - -
Kate ??? Servant - Female 25 1846 - Staffordshire, England
Delia Osborne Servant - Female 21 1850 - Ireland
Ellen Allen Servant - Female 19 1852 - Middlesex, England
Rodney St, Liverpool
RG10 P3783 F142 Page12
Ancestry, image not good, above info from elsewhere,
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... &ml_rpos=1
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 24 Feb 2016 22:36
by daggers
Thanks once again, Bert.
I cannot read anything on the Anc version of the Rodney Street family, but will try again in daylight. From what you have given Arthur Morris may be with another family.
I found Rebecca at the school in WD but not Amy, so far. Again, eyes should be better tomrrow.
D
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 25 Feb 2016 06:50
by Bertieone
The 4 family members at Rodney St, 1871, how they have managed a transcription I don't know, they should be applauded.
There's newspaper snippets for a Henry Thomas, 19 Water Street,(Office?) Liverpool, connected to shipping. They appear to cease after December 1871, perhaps around the time of Henry's demise?
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 25 Feb 2016 08:22
by retiringtype
1873 Gore's:
Thomas, Henry emigration agent, 27 Rodney Street - office 19 Water Street
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 25 Feb 2016 08:26
by MaryA
Well I have to say that, for all we complain about the transcriptions on Ancestry, they do have to be appreciated and as you say applauded, for some of them too, they could just as easily have put blank spaces for that.
Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 25 Feb 2016 08:34
by MaryA
Here is a copy with a white background but I don't think it's any more legible.

Re: Missing from 1871 census?
Posted: 25 Feb 2016 09:51
by daggers
I am very grateful for all your efforts. I think I now have enough to keep me going for a while. I found the two Thomas girls at their school, once my eyes had cleared this morning!
Daggers