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My Varley family has another brick wall.

To start at the beginning:--- Elizabeth Evans was born in Barmouth , Merionethshire. c 1816. Her parents, most probably, David Evans and Elizabeth Owens who were Weslyan. I cannot find her in the 1841 census. .
She married Samuel Harvey on 26 November 1845 at St John's Liverpool. I have this certificate. It was Samuel's second marriage. The first was to Ann Owens in 1840 at St Philip's Liverpool. Samuel was a tailor and draper.
1851 census . He was at 48 Hill St. Samuel and Elizabeth had 4 children that I know of. Elizabeth 1846; (my great grand mother); Margaret Ann 1848; died 1852; Joseph b 1850 d 1852; Samuel b 1853 died the same year . The last 3 were buried in the Wesleyan cemetery , Stanhope St.
Samuel Senior died 1860 buried Toxteth Cemetery. I have his death certificate.
Back to Elizabeth.
In the 1861 census, I can't find her but her daughter Elizabeth might be a servant in Huyton piece 2741 folio 64 page 6. With a family who were born in Westmoreland, which is were her father in law was married. This might be a coincidence, but they might have been helping a young widow out.
1871 I have found her again as Elizabeth Bannister wife of Banastre Bannister at Cottage Lane, Setcoth, Aughton. Piece 3870, Folio 8 page 9. Her daughter Elizabeth is with her.

I cannot find a marriage for her to Banastre between the 1861 and 1871 censuses.
She is still with this family in 1881 as Mrs Elizabeth Bannister aged 60, born Wales.
At Mayfield Cottage, Aughton.
Bonastre dies in 1882 and then I lose track of Elizabeth (senior). Her daughter married James Manchester (my Great grandfather) in 1878.
I got Banastre Bannister's will from TNA and it only mentions Elizabeth as "Mrs Manchester's mother" . The will was written in 1872 with a codicil dated 1878/80. It is in the codicil that Mrs Manchester and her mother are mentioned.

Can anybody help me find her in the missing censuses and her death. I like to bury my relatives. Thanks in anticipation
Lynne
Edit 1 sorry Bonnastre should have 2 'N;s

In case you haven't got it:

The Liverpool Mercury, Monday March 20th 1882

Deaths
BANNISTER March 18 at Cottage Lane, Aughton , Ormskirk, aged 77, Banastre Bannister. (Will be interred at Anfield Cemetery, on Wednesday, at three p.m.)

I wonder if Lynne has checked who else is in the grave as it may give a clue as to whether Elizabeth is with him.

By the sound of the wording of the Will, i doubt that a marriage took place between them.

No Karen, had not found the newspaper. Thanks for that.
I had not looked into the grave, but the tone of the codicil might leave me thinking no.
I cannot even find a suitable death in the Free BMD. Tried all surname Evans; Varley and Bannister.
I've found these:-
1. 1883; Liverpool; 8b 119; aged 59 (Too young)

2. Name: BANNISTER, Elizabeth
Registration district: [?] Haslingden
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1882
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:59
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 135
I don't know why she would be there.

3. BANNISTER, Elizabeth
Registration district: [?] Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1885
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:65
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 44

4. Age 70, 1887 Wigan. Will on Anx . Her brother called John Wood , so not likely.

5 17 Jan 1892 at Paddington Liverpool aged ? probate to Catherine Butcher wife of Edward Thomas Butcher
Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) This is most probably William Whitely Bannister's wife.
Bannister Elizabeth 67 W. Derby 8b 439

6. Varley Elizabeth 63 Ormskirk 8b 517 Age correct (10 years too young) - No this is wife of Robert Varley of Burscough.

Forgot to thank Mary. Thanks

From the Toxteth site that lists Anfield as well
(Unconsecrated Area)
Folio 686 Running number 13729 Private grave Section 2
Grave number 1120 Rev W Macfarlane.
That is where he is buried. Unlike Toxteth, you can't find who else is in the grave.

William Whitley Bannister died in 1889 and is also buried in that grave in Anfield:
http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/An ... 201889.htm

No sign of any other burials in the grave between 1882 and 1890.

Thanks Alison. Much appreciated.