Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Hi,
Struggling to find the above person in the census up to 1871, so far I have 2 marriages for:
Alice Fenney full age on MC married James Chorley Sept 1864 Christ Church Eccleston St.Helens.
Witness Joseph Fenney & Sarah Chorley.

In 1871 same church Joseph Fenney & Sarah Chorley marry. Both full age.

On both MC Joseph & Alice state their father is James Fenney Farmer.

Cant find James Fenney Farmer with the above 2 children Alice & Joseph.

Not really looking for the Chorley family which I have.

Thanks Margie

margie wrote: Not really looking for the Chorley family which I have.

Good, glad you do, could you give us the references from the 1871 cencus please, after they were married, and where they were living, and ages.

So based on the 1851 census, HO107; Piece: 2194; Folio: 528; Page: 20 Sarah appears to have been born in Prescot, in about 1838 and James born Eccleston, about 1845.

Finding Sarah and Joseph on the 1871 census RG10; Piece: 3861; Folio: 155; Page: 27 gives us Joseph's birthplace as Sutton, Lancashire born about 1842.

Perhaps father has had a change of occupation
1861 Nr Lea Green, Sutton, Lancashire
James Fenney Head M 55 Shoemaker Lancashire, Bold
Alice Wife M 53 Lancashire Sutton
Will son U 26 Ag Lab Lancashire Cuerdley
James son U 24 " " "
Thomas son U 20 Stoker " Widnes
Joseph son U 18 Blacksmith " Sutton
Alice daur u 16 " "
Rodger son U 14 Carter " "
Elizabeth daur 12 " "
Ralph son 10 " "
Mary Granddaur 2 " "
RG 9; Piece: 2754; Folio: 82; Page: 15

Father does seem to have flitted from job to job as he was a Rail Lab. in 1851 HO107; Piece: 2195; Folio: 305; Page: 22 but interestingly living in Lea Green with what is presumably his mother and siblings living next door.

By 1871 RG10; Piece: 3867; Folio: 107; Page: 21 he is a Labourer on Highway, so perhaps he was farming at the time of the marriages but maybe in a short term job.

Mary A

Thank you it certainly looks promising, will follow it all up, if that is the Father James married to Alice, will now have to find a marriage for them.

Margie

How about

Name: James Fenney
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1829
Marriage Place: Rainford, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Alice Henshall

from England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

He was a shoemaker, which matches with one of the censuses, bachelor and spinster and married at the chapel in Rainford. They appear to have signed their names and witnesses were William Henshall and Belly Fenney

Wonder if Belly was short for Isabel? or is it Betty written without the crossed T

Both appear to be of Rainford Parish.

Mary A.
Thank you so much for finding the marriage its much appreciated.
Margie