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In 1851 census at Kitchen Street, Liverpool I find a William Morrison age 66 born in Liverpool, listed as a shipwright (Royal Navy). He appears to be with his wife Elizabeth Morrison age 65 born Oswestry, Shropshire. They appear to be living at their son in law James Aldridge's household.

I tried to find them in the 1861 census but could not find them (maybe I over looked something!) so I speculated they had passed away.

I attempted to "guess" from GRO records which death entries might be theirs so I tried foolishly with the random approach to apply online and hoped luck was on my side!

I first attempted for William with the 1853 year of death and a year either side - I received a refund. Then I tried with the 1858 and a year either side, which also resulted in a refund!

My attempts with Elizabeth proved equally disastrous. An attempt with the year 1854 and a year either side, plus later the year 1857 and a year either side resulted in refunds!

That has left only an 1860 possibility for William but no other options for Elizabeth in the specific Liverpool / West Derby districts. If they died outside this area, I think I will struggle to pin point them!

I guess I'm left hoping for burial records that might come to light and reveal
their final resting place, if nothing else!

Thanks for taking the time to read my experience!

Dont know if this should help any ? No ages recorded but given their ages on the 1851 census it is a reasonable assumption to make as to why they are missing from the 1861 census ?
If one or other were 'hospitalised' they may well have died in the W.Derby Registration district.
If Elizabeth died first I would work on the assumption that William would be close behind.
I get for William
1854 - 8B/251 - Q3 L'pool
1858 - 8B/123 - Q2 L'pool
1859 - 8B/152 - Q2 L'pool

1857 8B/320-Q4 W.Derby
1857 8B/321-Q3 W.Derby
1857 8b/68 -Q4 W.Derby
1860 8B/277 Q1 W.Derby
For Elizabeth
1853 8B/137 Q4 Liverpool
1853 8B/54 Q3 Liverpool
1855 8B/221 Q4 Liverpool
1856 8B/207 Q1 Liverpool
1857 8B/125 Q1 Liverpool
On the positive side, at least you are getting refunds ? There are many who end up with useless certificates.

thank you for the posts and the attachment - I can now send for the 1860 certificate with confidence - brilliant - thanks once again! )

The original 1861 grant of letters of administration was to his son John Morrison of 4 Brunswick Buildings, Ann Street, Toxteth Park.

Thank you for sharing the knowledge!

William Morrison died at 5 Luton Street, Kirkdale of bronchitis (14 days certified) - informant William Woods of same address!

Another mystery to solve, who was Mr Woods? :-/

You are going to have to check out any daughters who may have married him/remarried to him, otherwise possibly he was a lodger/boarder, many of our ancestors let out a room in their house as an extra means of income.

William Woods, Shipwright, Full Age, Upper Frederick St
Marriage
24 Dec 1848
Liverpool, St Catherine
Spouse
Caroline Morrison, 20, spinster, Kitchen St
Father's
Joseph Woods, Upholsterer
William Morrison, Shipwright

Witnesses, George Woods, Margaret Rowlands.

1861,
5 Luton St,
William Woods
Caroline Woods
Children

RG 9; Piece: 2721; Folio: 142; Page: 30

Thank you for those! A new family branch to add to the tree! Brill.

After a frustrating attempt to get a copy of Elizabeth's death certificate - I can say I finally have a copy in my possession.

My first attempts resulted in my fee being refunded each time, as supposedly no death certificate was available.

The second attempt resulted in a random certificate from 1905 being sent supposedly the one I was seeking in 1855 - 1857.

A complaint was logged and finally today, Elizabeth MORRISON's death certificate arrived safe and sound. Sadly I can't read the date in March 1856 (could be the sixth) when she died but she died at 109 Duke Street, Everton - the same address as the informant William Woods!

Very happy to have knocked down a brick wall - I just knew it had to be there!

Great result!