Liverpool, where to search for further info?

[Frankly3D]

Baptised in 1897, Waterford City, Ireland.

But otherwise this is all I know of my grandfathers brother:
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/crews ... 54928.html

I have no idea when he moved to Liverpool,
guessing 1915-25.

[Bertieone]

Hi and welcome,

Marriage, 1926

Higgins Margaret, Murphy W.Derby 8b 810
MURPHY Dominic V, Higgins W.Derby 8b 810

[Karen]

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi has the marriage as in West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended.

[MaryA]

Hi and welcome to the forum. Were there any stories about the family coming to England together? do you know when your grandfather arrived and which censuses have you found them on?

If you think he may have still be in Ireland in 1911 both that and the 1901 census for Ireland are free to search http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

[Bertieone]

From the Masters and Mates certificates,

Date of Birth, 24 May, 1897, Waterford, Ireland.

If I'm understanding them correctly, in 1918, he gave his home address as, 134 Barrack St, Waterford, Ireland.

[Bertieone]

Address, (Probate) 27 January 1944,

Gairha, Southport Rd, Thornton, Liverpool.

[dickiesam]

Hi,
Re:

Baptised in 1897, Waterford City, Ireland.

Do you have the actual baptism cert?

From Merchant Navy & Maritime Record collection:
DOMINIC VINCENT MURPHY
DoB: 21st May 1887
Birth Place: Waterford
Birth County: Waterford
Identity Certificate Number: 5466
Card Type: CR10; Series: BT350

Findmypast have an MN record card for this man complete with a photograph, I guess this is from about 1919. He states born in Waterford but his nationality as British and his father as British.

[Bertieone]

Children registered West Derby between 1926/1943
Murphy/Higgins combination.

Bernard V Murphy, June 1927, 8b 610
Kevin F Murphy, Dec 1928 8b 518
Pauline M T Murphy, June 1933, 8b 512

[Bertieone]

From Merchant Navy & Maritime Record collection:



Findmypast have an MN record card for this man complete with a photograph, I guess this is from about 1919. He states his nationality as British and his father as British.

Hi DS
Is it the same chap in Link, first post

[dickiesam]

From Merchant Navy & Maritime Record collection:



Findmypast have an MN record card for this man complete with a photograph, I guess this is from about 1919. He states his nationality as British and his father as British.

Hi DS
Is it the same chap in Link, first post

Hi Bert,
I think so. Speckled Jim on his way for you to have a look.

[Bertieone]

Hi DS,

arrived safe and well,

I think it is the same chap, just older in the link.

Conflicting dates of birth to contend with.

[Bertieone]

Hi DS,
Masters and Mates certs,
issue,
1918, DoB 21 May 1897
1921, DoB, 24 May 1897

[dickiesam]

Hi DS,
Masters and Mates certs,
issue,
1918, DoB 21 May 1897
1921, DoB, 24 May 1897

I believe he may have lied about his age when going for the Mate's cert and added 10 years. The record card says 1887. Jim on his way again!

[dickiesam]

Hi Frankly3D,
What are the parents' names on that baptism cert? Trying to find Dominic in any census.

[Bertieone]

Received DS, thanks

1901 irish census


Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
about Paul Murphy




Name:
Paul Murphy

Gender:
Male

Age:
60

Birth Year:
abt 1841
Residence Date:
31 Mar 1901

Townland/Street:
Barrack Street
County:
Waterford
Paul Murphy 60
Catherine Murphy 36
Thomas Murphy 16
Paul Murphy 14
Joseph Murphy 12
Mary Kate Murphy 11
Bridget Murphy 6
Dominick Murphy 3
Christopher Murphy 2
Ellen Murphy

[dickiesam]

Hi Bert,
Well found. Oddly the National Archives search was not doing variations on Dominic!
Just added the k and bingo...
Address: 133 Barrack Street, Waterford
Murphy Paul 60 Head RC - Co Kilkenny Stone Mason
Murphy Catherine 36 Wife RC - Waterford City
Murphy Thomas 16 Son RC - Belfast - Drapers clerk
Murphy Paul 14 Son RC - Waterford City Scholar
Murphy Joseph 12 Son RC - Waterford City Scholar
Murphy Mary Kate 11 Dtr RC - Waterford City Scholar
Murphy Bridget 6 Dtr RC - Waterford City Scholar
Murphy Dominick 3 Son RC - Waterford City
Murphy Christopher 2 Son RC - Waterford City
Murphy Ellen 10 mths Dtr RC - Waterford City

[Bertieone]

1911, Irish

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... et/672805/

[dickiesam]

Social comment!
In 1911 Dominick's widowed mother is looking after her sister and brother [the former described as "Idiot" and the other as "Deaf and dumb"] in addition to her own 8 children!

[Frankly3D]

Hi Frankly3D,
What are the parents' names on that baptism cert? Trying to find Dominic in any census.

His Parent are Paul (died 1907), and Catherine nee Treacy died 1938 , incorrectly transcribed as Leacy.

1901 Census http://tinyurl.com/pxbd8s7
1911 Census http://tinyurl.com/ncqlzqu

[Frankly3D]

I appreciate the help you all have given me,
I would never have found the West Derby info. on my own.

All this has come from a photo, (the one on the U-Bioat site,)
came into my possession after my father died,
Captain Dominic Vincent murphy (Liverpool) in dads hand.