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Hi

Can anyone help me get past the brick wall I have hit on this branch of my family tree?
I am looking for information concerning my grandmother (Mary Power/Halpin) from my father’s side (Harold Joseph Halpin). The information I have gathered so far is that my grandmother was born around 1922, married to my grandfather (Harold D Halpin) 1939, had 5 sons and died in 1982. I remember my grandmother lived in Garston, Liverpool in the old terrace houses (now demolished) and she use to have an ornament of a swan above her front door.

Family members have not been able to come up with much information, there was a rumour that my grandmother was brought up by nuns, but that sure how true this rumour is.

Thanks for any help.

jasjon

Hi Jasjon,
Do you have this marriage cert?
Marriages Mar 1939: Halpin, Harold D married Power, Mary - Liverpool N. - 8b - 478
Mary's age and father's name/occupation would help finding her ancestry. The names of the witnesses could be important too.

While this death year does not match your post, could this be Mary?
Death: MARY HALPIN
Year 1985; Sep Qtr; Month of Registration: 7
Year Of Birth: 1921
Birth Month: 4
Birth Day: 6
District: LIVERPOOL; Volume: 36; Page: 319

There's a birth for a Harold D Halpin 4th qtr 1915 W Dby mother's maiden name of
Higginson. Possible death 1982 sept qtr Lpool aged 66yrs.

A number of Mary Power's born that year sadly some died as babies.
The only surviving one I could find in 1922 was maiden name Flood, 2nd qtr 1922 Lpool.

Tina wrote:A number of Mary Power's born that year sadly some died as babies.
The only surviving one I could find in 1922 was maiden name Flood, 2nd qtr 1922 Lpool.

Marriage
Nicholas Power, Margaret M Flood,
1915, Liverpool, 8b 194

Births Mar 1920: Power, Mary [Stewart] - W. Derby 8b 1130
Births Sep 1921: Power, Mary C [Turley] - W.Derby 8b 585 [Appears to have died June qtr 1925]

Births Dec 1921:
Power, Mary [Smith] - Liverpool 8b 11
Power, Mary [Patton] - W.Derby 8b 1251 [Appears to have died June qtr 1922]
Power, Mary W [Cooney] - W.Derby 8b 600

Births Jun 1922:
Power, Mary [Flood] - Liverpool 8b 139 [Appears to have died June qtr 1923]]
Power, Mary W [Hynes] - W.Derby 8b 694
Power, Mary W [Purnell] - W.Derby 8b 704
One of the above two births died in June qtr 1923

Births Dec 1922:
Power, Mary A [Halpin] - Liverpool 8b 316
Power, Mary J [Fox] Liverpool 8b 267

If you had the father's name from Mary's marriage cert you could ask the GRO to search for a matching birth one year either side of 1921. Also, you could search the Index for a marriage match with one of the above maiden names.

The 1939 marriage took place at: Church of the Good Shepherd, 136 Carr Lane East, West Derby, L11 4UJ.


Blue

Given the family rumour about Mary being raised by nuns and the birth of a Mary Halpin, mother Halpin in 1922, perhaps her father was unknown? Just a thought.

Barbara B wrote:Given the family rumour about Mary being raised by nuns and the birth of a Mary Halpin, mother Halpin in 1922, perhaps her father was unknown? Just a thought.

Hi Barbara,
I think the Mary A Power born 1922 [nee Halpin] could be to this couple, the only such marriage between 1911 and 1922.....
Marriages Jun 1915: Power, James S and Halpin, Hannah - Toxteth P. 8b 386

And these are her siblings?
Births Mar 1916: Power, James [Halpin] - Toxteth P 8b 260
Births Jun 1917: Power, Margaret [Halpin] - Toxteth P. 8b 237
Births Jun 1920: Power, Hannah [Halpin] - Toxteth P. 8b 306
Births Sep 1925: Power, William [Halpin] - Liverpool 8b 248
Births Jun 1928: Power, Joan [Halpin] - Liverpool 8b 277

Re:

the family rumour about Mary being raised by nuns

It is possible Mary went to a convent school with a strict 'discipline' and suffered a painful schooling as a result. That would have made a life-long impression on her.

Next step is to get the 1939 marriage certificate if you don't have it to see what is says about the father:-

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Blue

Hi DS - senior moment, got my Powers and Halpins mixed up! I do agree that you found the most likely. Marriage certificate seems like the logical step.
Barbara

Hello,

There is a thread on rootschat which seems to be about the same Mary Power and gives info about her family

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=302120.0

Alison

Hi and welcome to the forum. Great find from our crew.

Thanks for the link to Rootschat Alison, the lady on there must be related to you I believe and by the sound of it intended to order the marriage certificate that will be invaluable to you. I hope you will be able to make contact and share some information together.