Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Hi Folks

Came across this grave in my Toxeth planning trip and am I wrong in thinking only family would be in a "family" grave

DAVIES Edward 45 years Painter 20 Palmerston Street 14 September 1910 5169 103028 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/21 - this is my g. g. grandfather William Davies's brother

DAVIES Edward Richard 16 months Infant 15 Credworth Street 12 June 1890 3399 67951 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/14 - this is his first born son

HIGGOTT Alice Elizabeth 22 years Married Woman 112 Tunnel Road 5 February 1913 5357 106792 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/21 - this is his daughter, after marrying James H Higgott, there were no children


DAVIES Mary 28 years - 3 Holts Building Wrexham 23 December 1894 3815 76015 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/16 - This appears to be Edward, William, and James's sister Mary Ann Davies 1867-1894


DAVIES James 53 years Painter 4 Thorburn Street West Derby 24 November 1913 5410 107856 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/21 - This is my g. g. grandfather William Davies brother, who married my great grand mothers sister Elizabeth Georgiana Smart


These little people I am having a problem with

ASHTON Samuel 11 months Infant 15 Palmeston Street West Derby 27 January 1916 5509 109830 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/22

Samuel Aston
Mother's Maiden Name: Carter
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 170


In the road where the Davies all lived. The Aston family as follows:
Samuel Aston
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mold, Flintshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 8 Tay St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Carter
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Registration District Number: 454
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 22258
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Aston 36
Annie Aston 38
Annie Aston 12
Margaret Aston 9
Walter Aston 5
James Davies 25 ------have not been able to establish if this is one of mine, although I have a few James Davies!!

Built an Aston Tree but couldnt get a link.The mothers maiden name was Carter but I cant find a marriage to an Aston, thats if I have the right birth.


WHITE Annie 36 Hours Infant 58 Willoughby Street West Derby 19 May 1920 5717 113990 C E Right 201 353 CEM 9/1/23 Once again an address I am know the Davies family lived in but once again cant find an Annie Davies of mine marrying a White



JEWSEN Baby Boy 1 Day Infant 5 Palmeston Street Edge Hill 23 December 1929 6009 119831 C E Right 201 352 CEM 9/1/24

Once again familiar street name but not the number..........but no clue on this baby being part of the family

Would they be family............or were the Davies good neighboughs helping out ??

Thought I was going great guns

Don't take it for granted, check out this list

http://www.toxtethparkcemetery.co.uk/db ... &section=C

From this list the two Ayres are NOT in that grave, because they are in THIS grave

Transcription of headstone says Grave No. CO162,

AYRE Annie 22 years Spinster 14 S?? Bridge Street 14 November 1861 703 14049 C O 162 352 CEM 9/1/3
AYRE James 65 years H.M Customs 14 St Bride Street 3 October 1867 1365 27273 C O 162 352 CEM 9/1/6
AYRE Susannah 72 years Wife 14 St Brydes Street 22 October 1865 1131 22612 C O 162 352 CEM 9/1/5
AYRE James 58 years - - 15 May 1895 3854 76785 C O 162 352 CEM 9/1/16
AYRE Thomas M 4? years Infant 110 Sutton Street Tuebrook 20 September 1871 1825 36469 C O 162 352 CEM 9/1/8

Very badly transcribed and I have understood why because a C is scribbled similarly to a O.

Always check the original register rather than taking transcriptions for granted.

Sorry if I'm incorrect in assuming that you are relying on the transcribed site.

Hi Sue

There is this birth for a Samuel Ashton in Q1 1915:
Ashton, Samuel
Mothers maiden name BARLOW
West Derby 8b 1184

As all the other burials are from Edward Davies and family, then I think these mystery ones must also be from his family.

Who was Edward married to? There is a marriage for an Edward Davies and Martha Barlow in Q1 1897. Is that your Edward? If so, Could little Samuel be Martha's sisters child?

Alison

There is the following birth for Annie White

Births Q2 1920
White, Annie
Mothers names. Davies
West derby 8b 1236

On a bit of a roll here!

Lancashire opc has the marriage for Edward Davies and Martha Barlow. Grooms father William Davies, shoemaker - so does look like your edward. one of witnesses was Jessie Barlow.

Then is then a potential marriage on freebmd for Jessie Barlow and Samuel Ashton in sep 1899, West Derby, 8b 613.

Edwards marriage to Martha shows him as a widower. His first marriage, also from lan opc, was to Mary Cornforth in 1887. She was 21 at marriage.

The Mary Davies buried in this grave could therefore be Edwards first wife, rather than his sister ?

Back to Annie White....

Ancestry has a Florence Annie Davies, father Edward Davies, marrying a Charles White. Freebmd shows marriage was Q3 1918, West Derby, 8b , 451.

Now onto baby Jewson..

Thank you so much

Already had marriage for Edward with Mary cornforth what a plonker I am not considering 2nd marriages and yes his father was a shoemaker. The part of Wrexham she died in was very seedy and poor when I googled it

Jessie and Samuel Aston brilliant !!

Annie Davies .....Florence Annie White.....saw this and dismissed it....not so clever am I

Will do alteration this evening when I am home.

Once again many thanks

Hi Sue,

I think Jewsen may be a typo and should be Jensen/Jenson.

Ancestry has a marriage of an Elizabeth Ashton, father Samuel Ashton, to Edward Jenson. Freebmd gives the date as Q4 1919, West Derby, 8b, 531.

There is then a death for Male Jensen, age 0, in Q4 1929, Liverpool, 8b, 235.


Alison