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Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 16:57
by ZED
Hi All,

This is a strange one!
I've stumbled upon a (Liverpool) Christening record for a child named Louisa Maud McQuinn on Ancestry. Her parents were Alfred and Julia McQuinn - my great grandparents. This was a surprise, and I wasn't aware that Louisa Maud existed! Unfortunately I'm not subscribed to Ancestry at the moment, so I can't access the record to find any more info.

Alfred & Julia were married in 1894 (both aged 22). A daughter (Julia Mabel) was born to them during the year of their marriage: she died aged 5.

I've searched for Louisa Maud McQuinn in the BDMs of various websites, using 1894 year as a starting point, but returned no matches.

Is it possible that Louisa Maud was stillborn (perhaps the stillborn twin of Julia Mabel?) and this is why neither her birth nor death were recorded? Although having said that: would a stillborn baby have been christened?

Any advice/suggestions would be welcomed!

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 17:44
by erika
Hi Zed

Birth 23 June 1892
Baptism 6 July 1892 at Kensington Christ Church

Living at 4 Cottenham Street?

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 17:44
by Bertieone
Name:
Louisa Maud McQuinn

Birth Date:
23 Jun 1892
Baptism Date:
6 Jul 1892
Parish:
Kensington, Christ Church
Father's Name:
Alfred McQuinn
Mother's Name:
Julia McQuinn
Reference Number:
283 KEN/2/3

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 17:46
by Southbank Kat
Hi
The baptism entry for Louisa Maud McQuinn includes birthdate for her of 25 June 1892. Her parents Alfred and Julia didn't get married until 1894 so I checked FreeBMD for birth entry of 1892 under the mother's maiden name of Whelan and found this entry:

Lousia Maud Whelan West Derby District September qtr 1892 8b 242
found no death entry for her either under Whelan or McQuinn

Hope this helps
Kat :)

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 17:52
by erika
Louisa Maud was registered under mum's maiden name of Whelan in Sep 1892 West Derby 8b 242

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 18:09
by MaryA
Great minds thinking alike :D

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 18:09
by Bertieone
The 1911 census they declare 5 children born to the marriage, 4 survived and 1 died.

Alfred McQuinn 38
Julia McQuinn 38
Alfred McQuinn 14
Sydney McQuinn 13
Eileen Olive McQuinn 11
Muriel McQuinn 8/12

if the child Julia Mabel died aged 5, Louisa Maud is not accounted for.

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 18:33
by erika
She is not with them in the 1901 census either :?

There is a marriage for a Louisa Whelan in 1907 Dec qtr 8b 377 Toxteth Park
On UK BMD the marriage is recorded to William A Harrison Toxteth Park Registry Office or Registrar attended.

No sign of a Louisa Whelan in 1901 census tho'

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 18:36
by Southbank Kat
the 1911 census asks for number of children born "to present marriage" Louisa was born before the marriage of Alfred and Julia so should she have been included?

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 18:42
by Bertieone
Sticking strictly to the question asked, no she shouldn't be included.

Re: Louisa Maud McQuinn - Christening record, but no BMD

Posted: 17 Nov 2013 18:51
by ZED
Gosh ... thanks ever so much to everyone for your input: you've been fantastically helpful! It just never occurred to me that Louisa Maud had been born out of wedlock!