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Still hitting a brick wall, concerning my grandfather Gilbert Wilson, Cannot find any birth certificates, or parish records, of him or his siblings, Margaret, and John Robert Wilson. I have checked parish records of numerous churches in Toxteth Park, where they were living in 1881, found other siblings, William James, and Mary Jane Wilson, baptised at Christ church, Hunter street, (almost certain Mary Jane died when a child), still not sure I am on the right family as still cannot find marriage certificate of their parents Gilbert Wilson and Mary (Jones), I have been searching for over 5 years so any help would be appreciated. Regards AM 8495

Is below the correct family,


1881

Gilbert Wilson 41
Mary Wilson 40
William Wilson 13
Margaret Wilson 11
John Wilson 8
Gilbert Wilson 4
Mary Jones 63

RG11, Piece3644 Folio23 Page39

1871

RG10; Piece: 3784; Folio: 54; Page: 41;

Gilbert Wilson 1881 census born Scotland, Gasfitter,

1871, Gilbert Wilson born Bedlington, gasfitter,
Mary, wife,
William and Margaret.

1851,
HO107, P2185, F552, Page37

1861,
RG9, P2673, F19, Page34

It appears that Gilbert has been born in a number of places, Scotland, Bedlington and Newcastle.

Baptism,

Mothers name, Mary Ellen.


Name:
Mary Jane Wilson
Baptism Date:
11 Nov 1869
Parish:
Liverpool, Christ Church
Father's Name:Gilbert Wilson
Mother's Name:Mary Ellen Wilson


Name:
William James Wilson
Baptism Date:
11 Nov 1869
Parish:
Liverpool, Christ Church
Father's Name:
Gilbert Wilson
Mother's Name:
Mary Ellen Wilson

Beginning to think they never tied the knot

FYI....link to previous thread on Gilbert Wilson

http://www.forum.liverpool-genealogy.or ... on#p104789

Beginning to think they never tied the knot

If they never tied the knot, then maybe Gilbert was registered under Mary's "maiden" name of Jones.

Could this be him on FreeBMD?

Births Mar 1877
JONES Gilbert
District: Liverpool
Volume: 8b
Page: 195

Alison

Could be,

Can't find a Gilbert Jones on the following 3 census to match that birth in Liverpool or death, perhaps other eyes needed.

Could this be Mary Ellen Jones and mother Mary Jones,

1851,


Robert Jones 35 Manchester
Mary Jones 33 Holywell, Wales
Mary Ellen Jones 9 Liverpool
Margt Elizth Jones 7
Emma Jones 4
Jane Jones 1 6 Mo

HO107, Piece2181, Folio543, Page44

Bertieone wrote:1851,
HO107, P2185, F552, Page37

1861,
RG9, P2673, F19, Page34

It appears that Gilbert has been born in a number of places, Scotland, Bedlington and Newcastle.

Thanks Bert,Yes This Is The Family I Have Been Tracing Regards AM8495

As the family has Scottish connections I would check for a birth in Scotland. You need Scotland's People for this.

I would also use one of the earlier census using a sibling to Gilbert to check where the family was in those earlier years.

1841
HO107 Piece825, Book12
Name:
Gilbert Wilson
Age:
9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1840
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Northumberland, England
Civil Parish:
Tynemouth
Hundred:
Castle (East Division)
County/Island:
Northumberland
Country:
England
Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub-registration District:
North Shields
Household Members:
Gilbert Wilson 30, Scotland
Mary Wilson 10 Scotland
John Wilson 7 Scotland
Margaret Wilson 5 Scotland
Jane Wilson 3
Gilbert Wilson 9 Mo
Elizabeth London 32 Scotland

Marriage
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYQM-6PB