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Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 17:56
by Wrennie65
Just found out that this is my great great Grandfather on my Father's side. His son Henry Edward is my father's Grandfather.
I have a very old photograph of him with his initials and address on it which has been passed down my family.
Is there anyone else out there related to him?
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 18:33
by dickiesam
Trying to put a 'handle' on your quest but you haven't given any dates. However, I believe this is your Henry Edward in 1910+1?
Residing at Bleak House, Aston, Nantwich, Cheshire
BEYER, Henry Edward Head 62 1849 Master Mariner bn Liverpool Lancashire
BEYER, Fanny Ann Wife 61 1850 Ellesmere, Shropshire
BEYER, Fanny Whitefield Dtr u/m 27 1884 Ellesmere, Shropshire
BEYER, Reginald Gordon Son u/m 25 1886 Farmer Ellesmere, Shropshire
Henry Edward Beyer married Fanny Ann Whitfield
Registration district: Ellesmere, Shropshire
Year of registration: 1875; Sep qtr
Volume no: 6A; Page no: 1231
Did Henry have siblings? Any idea of when Gottlieb arrived in England?
Edited to add for the crew:
Birth: BEYER, Henry Edward
Registration district: West Derby
Year of registration: 1848; Jun qtr
Volume no: 20; Page no: 1063
Death: BEYER, Gottlieb Ferdinand
Registration district: West Derby
Year of registration: 1860; Mar qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 321
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 18:45
by MaryA
Hi and welcome to the forum.
We have tried to put together a few suggestions about searching for living relatives which you can read here
http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... =14&t=8154
You might also find it useful to post on a specific Cheshire board, such as
www.rootschat.com
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 19:50
by dickiesam
Is this the family in 1861?
RG09 Piece: 2735 Folio: 4 Page: 4
Address: Street Name Unknown, West Derby, Lancashire
BEYER, Lousa H Head Widow 38 1823 Christleton, Cheshire
BEYER, Anna Dtr 18 1843 Lancashire, Wallton
BEYER, Thomas Son 14 1847 Lancashire, Wallton
BEYER, Henry E Son 12 1849 Lancashire, Wallton
BEYER, William N Son 10 1851 Lancashire, Wallton
BEYER, Alexine E Dtr 8 1853 Lancashire, Wallton
BEYER, Louisa F Dtr 6 1855 Lancashire, Wallton
BEYER, Arthur L Son 4 1857 Lancashire, Wallton
WALL, Elizabeth Servant 36 1825 Liverpool, Lancashire
If this is the family have you traced descendants of Henry's siblings?
Marriage: BEYER, Gottlieb Ferdinand married PICKERING, Louisa Harriott
Registration district: Great Boughton, Cheshire
Year of registration: 1841; Dec qtr
Volume no: 19; Page no: 57
From Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905:
BEYER, Gottlieb Ferdinand [Merchant], bn 1814, married at Christleton, Cheshire, 06 Nov 1841.
A number of docs, including the marriage cert, are available.
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 19:53
by Wrennie65
Yes thank you for your help, it's amazing. My father is the last surviving Beyer and is delighted he now knows about his Prussian grandfather.
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 21:11
by Wrennie65
How do I contact previous members who have posted about my ancestor. Namely Alane and Abeyer. I think I am related to them. I don't seem to be able to message them. Thank your for your help.
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 22:36
by MaryA
I'm afraid they are not Society Members and have not remained members of our forum. We don't have contact details for them.
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 17 Jul 2013 13:12
by dickiesam
Wrennie65 wrote:How do I contact previous members who have posted about my ancestor. Namely Alane and Abeyer. I think I am related to them. I don't seem to be able to message them. Thank your for your help.
Why don't you post the details about the two ancestors you named? Who are they, DoBs, and census references, etc? See if we can make a connection for you.
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 17 Jul 2013 13:36
by Bertieone
DS,
[quote= Any idea of when Gottlieb arrived in England[/quote]
England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
about G T Beyer
Name:
G T Beyer
[G F Beyer]
Port of Arrival:
London, England
Arrival Date:
18 Jul 1839
Port of Departure:
Rotterdam, Netherlands
Ship:
Ocean
Country of Origin/Native of:
Germany
1841 census,
HO107 P90 Book4
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 17 Jul 2013 15:55
by dickiesam
Bertieone wrote:DS,
Any idea of when Gottlieb arrived in England[/quote wrote:
England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869, about G T Beyer
Name: G T Beyer [G F Beyer]
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 18 Jul 1839
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands
Ship: Ocean
Country of Origin/Native of: Germany
Thanks Bert! And two years later he's married a young lass from Christleton. That was quick. One of them must have been a good catch?
Re: 1841 census... This is where they met?
HO107 Piece: 90 Book/Folio: 4/8 Page: 17
Address: Pepper Street, Christleton, Cheshire
PICKERING, Thomas 60 1781 - Independent means - Cheshire
PICKERING, Arabella 55 1786 - ditto - Cheshire
PICKERING, Louisa 15 1826 - ditto - Cheshire
PICKERING, John 15 1826 - ditto and Merchant apprentice - Cheshire
JONES, Sarah 20 1821 - Domestic servant - [not Cheshire]
BEYER, Ferdinand 25 1816 - Merchant - Foreign
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 18 Jul 2013 09:05
by Tina
GR8 wombating crew!
Welcome Wrennie.
There is a will for G.F.B Merchant late of Rumford Place dated 16.2.1860 died at Ashleigh nr Lpool.
Assets 450 pounds it was proved by the Principal Registry by oath of Louisa Harriet Beyer of Ashleigh widow of the Relict and Sole Executrix.
1843 Gores Directory G.F.B Merchant 1 Baker St Low Hill
office 11 Rumford Place.
p.s there are 2 baptisms at St Peter's and more at Walton Breck later for Gottlieb's kiddies
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 19 Jul 2013 21:45
by Wrennie65
Thank you so much for all your replies I cannot thank you enough. I have now been in contact with a relative in Canada who had posted on here previously and she has lots of information.
Thank you again.
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 21 Jul 2013 09:52
by Tina
Good news Wrennie about your Canadian contact.
Please do let us know how you get along.
Best wishes
Re: Gottlieb Ferdinand Beyer
Posted: 04 Jul 2016 22:19
by abeyer
Hi Everyone !
UPDATE:
Just wanted to let you know thanks to your help, Wrennie65 and I ... ABeyer have now met !
My husband and I went to England last year and met Jen's family ( Henry Beyer's side ), his other brothers (William Beyers )line Barb and Viv, as well as my of Line Arthur L Beyer ! ( Renee and Ruth )
I have also found Ernst Beyer's line in both Brazil and Argentina ! They are on-route to England in a few weeks time. And are all Chuffed that we found each other, they had no idea they had British roots.
While in Liverpool last year another cousin, Celia toured us around Liverpool, she is Thomas Pickering-Hodson line !We went to Rumford place where Gottlieb and Thomas Ernst had their businesses, and saw the old cobblestone road leading up to the old house that was once called Ashleigh just off Walton Breck road. We also visited the old family farm in Duddleston Heath, and were welcomed to walk around our old homestead ... what a treat.
We were also in Christleton in Chester, and saw the Old Georgian home of the Pickering's called "the Ivy House". This is where Gottlieb and Louisa feel in love. As well was toured around St James Church and all of Chester by a lovely couple I met on-line David and Beryl.
Found my Great Grandfathers Arthur L Beyer in a mass grave in Wallasey for aged mariners ... that was sad, thanks to Karen who helped us with that. Sadly we did not find anyone else's, grave on the Beyer side.
Christleton, Liverpool and the old farm felt like home .. so familiar. If I had to choose between Liverpool and London, well, I would choose Liverpool in a heartbeat ! What a friendly wonderful place, everywhere we went we ran into great people and awesome architecture. So much history compared to us young 149 year old Canadians !
Thanks again for your help, Warm Regards from the Beyer family !