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Two Marriages
Posted: 09 Dec 2012 01:02
by moya
Through someone who is researching a family name that I am distantly related to, it seems that one of my Great-Aunts was married twice to the same person. In 1902 Eleanor Lambert married James Burke, then in 1903 she married James Dwerryhouse. James was born Dwerryhouse but was known by his mother's married name of Burke. I haven't got the certificates but would they have had to notify the registrar/vicar that they were already married and would the second certificate have been notated to indicate the first marriage. As it's not part of my research, I do not want to send for the certs but has anyone come across this before. Regards Moya
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 09 Dec 2012 05:30
by northmeols
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903
DWERRYHOUSE James LAMBERT Eleanor
Kirkdale, St. Mary Liverpool
2013WD/23/326 this may have been a correction for the first cert or a completely different man
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
BURKE James LAMBERT Eleanor
Kirkdale, St. Mary Liverpool
2013WD/22/436
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 09 Dec 2012 09:17
by Tina
Hi Moya, nice to chat with you.
There is a tree on Anc which has James Dwerryhouse b 1877 d 1948
Eleanor Lambert bn 1882 d 1964 Bootle.
James mother listed as Elizabeth Dwerryhouse, died Bootle, no other info.
1911 James as Dwerryhouse 34 Tanners labr bn Kirkdale.
Eleanor 29 bn Everton 1882 and the kiddies.
39 Staley St Orrell Bootle.
I'm sorry I can't help with marriage puzzle.
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 09 Dec 2012 09:19
by Tina
Me again
Have a look at 1881 where James is 4, Ellen is 60 and John is 18 all Dwerryhouse.
They are boarding with Burke family in Bootle.
Elizabeth Burke wife is 22.
Free BMD have his birth as Dwerryhouse 1877.
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 09 Dec 2012 12:31
by Hilary
I think you would need sight of the church marriage register to solve this. However this is not available online so it would need someone to look at it at Liverpool Record Office.
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 12 Dec 2012 02:54
by moya
Thankyou all. Is the church marriage register at the Liverpool Record Office different from the certifcates from GRO ?
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 12 Dec 2012 08:48
by MaryA
They should actually be the same, the information being given and completed at the same time, but we have seen occasions when the information has differed.
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 12 Dec 2012 09:13
by Tina
Hi Moya was the information North Meols and myself sent of any use to you?
John from 1881 is in 1901 census bn 1863 Blackburn, married.
and again in 1911 both times living in Bootle.
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 12 Dec 2012 10:00
by Hilary
As they were both at the same church , it is possible that the vicar knew the couple and was aware of the reason behind the second marriage. Any annotations he would have made are likely to be in the copy of the register kept by the church rather than the register that was held by the register office. The church register is the register the couple would actually sign. The one we see copies from the GRO etc does not have the couples' actual signature.
Re: Two Marriages
Posted: 14 Dec 2012 23:37
by moya
I think the John Dwerryhouse on the 1881 census would have been Elizabeth's (Burke) brother. Both of the marriage's took place at St.Mary's Kirkdale so I shall let the person who is researching this know that if he wants to take it further he should check the LRO or the church. He lives in Manchester so this not be too much of a problem. Thankyou all for your help and suggestions. Regards Moya