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I have a marriage for Frances Willis & Thomas Corness\Corner\Cormer 3Q 1886 (8b 88) at St. Michael in the city. I would like to know the name of the groom’s father and his occupation.
I also have Catherine Daley married to Thomas Corness\Corless on 11 Nov 1888 (8b 193) but cannot find the church a good guess would be St. Oswalds where their first child was baptised. Groom’s fathers name is John (that would be right) could anyone find any more details on either of these marriages. Cannot find any more on the sites I use.
Thanks Linda

Hi Linda,

Lancashire BMD site (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi) shows Catherine Daley and Thomas Corless were married at St Peters.

Alison

Oh that's great thanks for your quick reply.
Linda

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I have a marriage for Frances Willis & Thomas Corness\Corner\Cormer 3Q 1886 (8b 88) at St. Michael in the city. I would like to know the name of the groom’s father and his occupation.

If you can't find the marriage in the Ancestry collection of Liverpool Parish Registers the only option left to get that info is to buy the marriage cert from the GRO in Southport using the GRO reference you already have.

The groom's surname in the Marriage Index is Corner.
CORNER, Thomas [appears to have married Willis, Frances]
Registration district: Liverpool
Year/qtr of registration: 1886 / Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 88

Hi

The IGI Pilot site has one of the marriages and shows both fathers names but suspect you already have this info

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNSZ-LF6

https://www.familysearch.org/

Is this Catherine's baptism - an element of Latin

Catharina (deffo an a) Daley born 9 Nov 1870 Baptised 27 Nov 1870 St Oswald
Father Patricii Daley
Mother Helenae Riley

Jacobus Garland and Maria Keogh appear to be godparents

Hi Carole
1881 census has a Catherine Daley parents Patrick & Ellen
Her age as 8yrs.
22 Beaconsfield Rd, Walton on the Hill.
We need to find Thomas with his wife in 1891.
Surname??

Hi Linda
Don't know if this is your man?
1891 census as Corness, Thomas boarder
8 James St Westhoughton Lancs, Bolton rego area
23 coal miner, Catherine 20, Catherine jr 2 all bn Lpool
John 2mnths bn Westhoughton.

Tina If you mean the first Thomas's wife Frances surname, it is Willis.

Linda if you are trying to work out which of them is yours, cheaper than ordering the cert from the GRO would be the Record Office who should have the Registers for the church.

Thanks to all for your input. Yes I am trying to work out which one is mine, I do not live in Liverpool so will add it to my long list for my next visit there.
Linda

Hi Mary
Sorry to confuse, I didn't mean brides surname, I meant Thomas', how it will be transcribed.
Looks like Catherine one of the brides is the right one in 1891 census.
Now to find Frances..

1891 Thomas Cornes amended to Corner in Anx by member, 26 carter
Frances 25
9 Cadrington? St West Derby (I've found Moira St & Shepherd in Directories which were close by)
also bro in law Robert A 25 transcribed as Stills, reads Willis.
John Stills 22, nephew Richard Stills 3yrs.
RG12/2987/66/40.

I'm hoping some info here may help Linda. A name here and there?
Thos & Frances in 1901 don't have any children.
They have their two bro in laws and another 2 nephews.
If Linda's family is a direct line from Thomas, possibly Frances is not the correct bride?
Thomas Corner bn 1866
RG13/3481/121/19

Tina wrote:I'm hoping some info here may help Linda. A name here and there?
Thos & Frances in 1901 don't have any children.
They have their two bro in laws and another 2 nephews.
If Linda's family is a direct line from Thomas, possibly Frances is not the correct bride?
Thomas Corner bn 1866
RG13/3481/121/19

I agree with Tina's thoughts about a direct line from Thomas. None of the censuses from the marriage of Thomas Corner and Frances Willis show children. In the 19ssshhh census Frances is a widow with no Corner children in the household at 6 Fitzclarence Street, Everton. There are 6 children there all 'belonging' to Anne Jane Williams [49 - widow] Frances' sister.
Deaths Mar 1909: CORNER, Thomas - 43 - W. Derby - 8b - 404.

EDITED TO ADD: Between 1888 and 1909 I found 9 deaths of Corner children born in LIverpool between those dates. Some of them could be children of Thomas and Frances.

Hi,
Thomas Corness\Corner is my Grandfathers brother, I am struggling to find out about him and also his brother John Born in 1874 who is on the 1891 census age 16. There is also a John Corner born the same year and married Maud Massey I know this is not him. Thanks for all your help.
Linda