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What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 17:59
by annron
Can anyone help with the name of this street, could it be Great Newton St. Well don't know how to upload the image, could someone help please.

Chris Image

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 18:01
by MaryA
Instructions to post a photograph in your message here http://www.forum.liverpool-genealogy.or ... =16&t=9817

Alternatively if it's a census, give us the details - ie full reference and year.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 18:25
by annron
Thanks for the instructions Mary, it's a bapitism record which took place at St Peters, Liverpool

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 18:27
by daggers
I think you are correct.
D

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 18:30
by annron
Thanks Daggers, if that is correct does anyone know where that street was/is.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 18:59
by daggers
It used to run from Pembroke Place (London Road area ) through to Brownlow Hill but I suspect it is no longer complete.
D

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 19:12
by jan44
The street is on this map, I think it is still Great Newton Street, I work in the next street to it.

http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... z/np79.htm

Jan

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 19:37
by annron
Thanks everybody for your replies and the link to the map, your stars on here always willing to help, really appreciated.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 01 Apr 2012 19:41
by annron
After looking at the map I see it's not very far from Russell St where the Chippendale's settled until William Chippendale's untimely death in 1859.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 09:58
by Tina
Hi Annron :)
Wm is listed at 23 Russell St as a surgeon
in 1853 Gores/Kellys Directory
On the baptism 1848 it looks like he's a medical botanist?
aarrggh did little Charles die in 1850?
He's not with them in 1851.
1851 Wm is a surgeon college of New York and a G.P
Was Sophia his 2nd wife? big gap between his son 14 and little
Sarah Sophia?
Thanks just being nosey...

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:02
by annron
Hi Tina
Thanks for the info where can I view the directory?

I have loads of info on William the only missing thing is his place of burial, I will have to visit Liverpool sometime to try to establish that as all the links I have been given have lead to nowhere. He died 7 Dec 1859 at 23 Russell St aged 49


Chris

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:12
by Tina
Hi Chris
Many of us bought the Directories covering assorted years. Not available to view online.
I don't know where William would have been buried in 1859, he was born in Yorkshire according to 1851 census.
I'm sure the crew will have some ideas to help.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:16
by annron
Thanks Tina.

The child Joseph is from his 1st marriage, he had 6 children with his second wife Sophia Woods and only 2 of them survived one being my Great Grandfather. One of his children he named Albert Isaiah Coffin Chippendale (poor child) he was born and died in 1854. There is an Albert Isaiah Coffin who was a Medical Botanist from the USA so I assume he was involved with him somewhere along the line.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:36
by Tina
Hi again
In Free BMD he married Sophia Wood in Bedford jun qtr 1850.
Joseph is 14 bn York in 1851 census.
Trying to find what religion Wm was to help with burial.
If he got his diploma's in New York he may not have been in 1841 census?

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:38
by Tina
Hi we're tag teaming!!
I saw the middle name of Coffin and wondered about that.
Another little angel.
Perhaps Albert was Williams mentor with his botanical research in USA?

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:47
by annron
Hi Tina
I've searched everywhere to try to find evidence that he went to New York but found nothing at all, I am coming to the conclusion that that was a bit of a porky.

Sophia Woods his 2nd wife is the daughter of Charles Wood of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, after William's death in 1859 she married a James Schofield and they along with their child James and her 2 other children William Henry Chippendale (my gg) John Myers Chippendale they moved to Wigan my home town.

Chris

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:53
by MaryA
annron wrote: He died 7 Dec 1859 at 23 Russell St aged 49
Just giving myself a reminder to check Gibsons this evening when I get home.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 10:56
by annron
A little confused Tina, what is Gibson's? Sorry I mean Mary.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 11:04
by annron
a little bit of info regarding Albert Isaiah Coffin

Coffin may have begun orthodox medical training but claimed to have been influenced by Native American healers, after being successfully treated for tuberculosis. He first practised in Manchester, using key remedies, lobelia (an emetic) and cayenne pepper (for warmth). He wrote 'Botanic Guide to Health' (1845) and 'Treatise on Midwifery and the Diseases of Women and Children' (1849). One of Coffin's assistants, John Skelton, was a great influence on John Boot, the father of Jesse and founder of Boot's pharmaceutical company and high street chemist chain. The institutions of British herbalism, notably the National Institute of Medical Herbalists, can be traced back to Coffin, who was active in London from the late 1840s.

Ironic really that William Chippendale actually died of Ulceration of the Bowel and TB.

Re: What's the name of the street

Posted: 02 Apr 2012 11:35
by Tina
Thank you Chris, amazing medical treatments from Native Americans, so early in the century.
Obviously Boots believed in it all. Alternative medicine is for deffo not a new thing.
We only have to look at the plants etc that our indigenous people haved used here in Australia for thousands of years.
Very interesting.
Added: I googled Albert, so much info about him.
Great reading, he died in 1866 in London aged 75yrs
His Will in and burial in Anx.