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Double Census Entry
Posted: 20 Jan 2012 23:01
by 42aitch
Has anyone come across a double entry on a Census with exactly the same people. Whilst researching for WW1 soldiers I have found this.
1901 10, 1 House Ct. Blair Street Toxteth Park
RG13/3426/62/24
William Clyde b 1876 General Labourer B. Liverpool
Ellen Clyde Wife - B 1874
Josephine - dgt - B 1897
Agnes - dgt - B 1898
Thomas Clyde - Brother B 1881
Agnes Clyde - Sister B 1885 Born Glasgow, Scotland
All others born in Liverpool
then at 7, 3 House Court, Chesterfield Street, Toxteth Park
RG13/3426/70/40
Exactly the same people with everything the same except wife is down as
Nellie Clyde
Do you think they did a moonlight flit on the night of the Census
Eileen
Posted: 21 Jan 2012 01:11
by CaroleW
I remember a similar instance some time back and it transpired that 2 houses had been knocked into one.
They were in adjoining roads but had been knocked through on a "back to back" basis but had retained the 2 original entrances so the family were technically living at 2 addresses
I don't know whether Chesterfield St & Blair Street were adjoining streets
Posted: 21 Jan 2012 07:53
by juno
Hi
Blair Street and Chesterfield Street do run parallel off Upper Parliament Street but have been re-developed. It is unlikely that the houses were close enough to have been back to back and there were other roads off Blair Street running down towards Chesterfield Street.
Hope this helps in some way.
Juno
Posted: 21 Jan 2012 09:51
by MaryA
The other alternative is that the family moved houses more or less exactly on census day. If whoever answered the door to the census enumerator was illiterate they may have simply given all the details to be written down. A house move, perhaps for additional space - done a runner maybe, whatever reason, same thing happened either later in the day or maybe even the next day.
Have you checked whether the enumerator was the same person?
Posted: 21 Jan 2012 16:25
by dickiesam
I think it is likely the family had moved between Census night and the day the enumerator called to collect the completed Household Report Form, perhaps up to a week later.
The family had probably left the Household Form at their previous address for collection whenever. If a different enumerator called to their new address he/she would have followed procedure and filled in a second Household Form to be sure the household was properly recorded.
Then a minor bureaucratic cock-up occurred and both households were recorded on the respective Census Summary page, one by each enumerator. Even if it was the same enumerator, would they have copped on that there was only one family? I doubt it.
DS
Posted: 21 Jan 2012 17:25
by 42aitch
Good to hear your comments on the reasons, I just thought it was very unusual for a whole family to be duplicated at different addresses. I have come across a few where grandchildren were with parents and also staying with Grandparents at a different address or someone who was also shown at their place of work as a servant.
Eileen
Posted: 24 Jan 2012 13:18
by MaureenB
I found my husbands Aunt...
Gertrude Forsyth ,listed twice in the 1911 census
Once with her Forsyth family and again with her Quayle,,,Grandparents.