Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

I am searching for any family of Owen Pritchard m Elizabeth Williams 1845. I know one son, Edward William Pritchard went to Australia, but would love to know if he had siblings, or any info re death of Owen and Elizabeth.
Thanks again for any help.

If we start with their marriage it will at least give us an idea of where they lived.

St George Everton, 5th January 1845
Owen Pritchard Full Age, Widower Cooper, 12 Pickup Street, Liverpool
Father - Owen Pritchard, Labourer
Elizabeth Williams, Full Age, Spinster, 2 Mary Ann Street, Everton
Father William Williams, Labourer
Married by Banns, both signed their names
Witnesses Ellis Wignall and Jane Roberts

Can you tell us where and when Edward William was born and when he went to Australia. Did the family remain in Liverpool after the parents marriage?

Can't find a Lancashire birth between 1837 and 1870 for Edward William. So, since Owen was a widower was Edward born before Owen married Elizabeth and pre-September 1837?

Have Owen and Elizabeth been found in 1851 or later?

DS

Good questions Mary & D.S
I've had no luck trying to find the people in UK census.
Owen is usually easy to find.
Cheers
Tina

ps could he be William Edward?

I did try looking yesterday, but unfortunately without more information, which I suspect crad9 has, we are a little stuck.

Edward William was born/registered in Manchester England around 1853; he married Mary Ann Baker in Talbot Victoria Australia on 28 June 1876 and died on 17 April 1925. Most of his life was spent in Preston Victoria, although the majority of their children were born in Amhurst (Talbot) Victoria. Edward and Mary Ann had 15 children, but there is some talk that the youngest was in fact the son of their first-born daughter, ie their grandson but reared as their son, which I believe was quite common in those times.

I am not sure when Edward went to Australia, but am hoping my continued search may find the answer

The only birth I see for Edward William near that date is Q2 1855 Salford 8d 10, however the LDS site has what I suspect is the birth of this person, 6 April 1855, christened 17 May, 1855, Eccles, with parents Thomas Doughty and Louisa Anne Pritchard.

Please can you be more specific as to his birth, where you got the information from and if you have found to family on the 1851 census.

Hi Mary,
RE:

The only birth I see for Edward William near that date is Q2 1855 Salford 8d 10, however the LDS site has what I suspect is the birth of this person, 6 April 1855, christened 17 May, 1855, Eccles, with parents Thomas Doughty and Louisa Anne Pritchard.

The Edward Pritchard christened May 17th is shown in the 1881 census, so have to rule him out. I also suspect he is the Salford registered birth.
Census Place: Pendleton In Salford, Lancashire, England
RG11 / Piece:3942 / Folio: 125 / Page: 25.

Crad9, while there is a possibility that Edward's birth was not registered, what is the source of your information he was born in Manchester abt 1853?

Ahem! There is this birth before the marriage....
PRITCHARD, William Edward - West Derby, Lancashire - 1843 - Jan-Feb-Mar - 20 - 906.
Haven't found him yet in 1851 but there's no matching death before then.

DS

DS, Don't see a baptism for the 1843 William either.

Births Jun 1855
Pritchard Edward William Salford 8d 10

lancs records 1855
PRITCHARD Edward William Pendleton, Salford PEN/20/61

Hi
1903 Electoral Rolls
Edward William Pritchard miner Clifton Gr Preston Victoria
Mary Ann home duties.
ditto 1909
1914 John St Preston
ditto 1919
1924 Regent St Preston
Death Northcote Vic aged 74 yrs
Mary Ann Pritchard
father Edward BAKER mother Jemima Belgrave.
Sorry nothing for Edward's death in Anx

Tina

Nice one Tina

Thanks Mary!!
Mary Ann had a brother Samuel Baker bn 1876 died in Vic 1964 mother Jemima Belgrave.
Poster may have this.
Tina

Thanks for all the replies.I am sorry to have not replied sooner but I have been away. It will take me a while to evaluate everything but thanks everyone.

regards

peter

From Lancashire OPC, this looks to be Owen's first marriage:

Marriage: 22 Nov 1818 St Anne Richmond, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Owen Pritchard - Cooper of this Parish
Rachel Davies - (X), Spinster of this Parish
Witness: Henry Greene; Thos. Holden
Married by Banns by: Wm. Blundell Minr.
Register: Marriages 1816 - 1822, Page 116, Entry 1356
Source: LDS Film 1656150

With the following children:

Baptisms: 30 Apr 1820 St Anne Richmond, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Eleanor Pritchard - Daughter of Owen Pritchard & Rachel
Born: 7 Jan 1820
Abode: Pickup Street
Occupation: Cooper
Baptised by: Wm. Blundell Minr.
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 141, Page 39, Entry 311
Source: LDS Film 1656149

Burial: 18 Jan 1822 St Paul, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Eleanor Pritchard - daughter of Owen Pritchard & Rachel
Age: 2 yrs
Abode: Pickop Street
Occupation: Cooper
Buried by: R. Litler
Register: Burials 1818 - 1822, Page 74, Entry 10
Source: LDS Film 1656375

Baptisms: 26 Jan 1823 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Pritchard - Son of Owen Pritchard & Rachel
Abode: Pickup Street
Occupation: Cooper
Baptised by: R. K. Milner Offtg. M.
Register: Baptisms 1821 - 1823, Page 249, Entry 16
Source: LDS Film 93834

Baptisms: 21 Dec 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Margaret Pritchard - Child of Owen Pritchard & Rachael, Single Woman
Abode: Pickop St.
Occupation: Cooper
Baptised by: Thomas Johnson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1825, Page 300, Entry 2394
Source: LDS Film 1656419

Baptisms: 22 Feb 1828 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Owen Pritchard - Child of Owen Pritchard & Rachel
Abode: Pickop St
Occupation: Cooper
Baptised by: Wheeler Milner officiating Minister
Register: Baptisms 1827 - 1828, Page 167, Entry 1329
Source: LDS Film 1656419

Baptisms: 30 Sep 1836 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Joseph Pritchard - Child of Owen Pritchard & Rachel
Abode: Pickop St.
Occupation: Cooper
Baptised by: Richd. Appleton Curate
Register: Baptisms 1836, Page 157, Entry 1253
Source: LDS Film 93834

And finally Rachel's death:

Burial: 20 Oct 1842 St Paul, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rachel Pritchard -
Age: 46 years
Abode: Pickop Street
Buried by: W. Hughes
Register: Burials 1832 - 1854, Page 159, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 1656376


Alison

Thanks Everyone for the brilliant replies.
My info that Edward William Pritchard was born in Manchester England comes from his marriage certificate to Mary Ann Baker on 28 June 1876, where he is also recorded as 23 years of age. Which puts his birth at 1853. Also, he was 72 when he died in 1925 according to Preston Cemetery Records.

Have since found out some information from kind distant relative re Owen Pritchard and Elizabeth Williams. Elizabeth went to Australia, recorded as widowed (14/4/1852) and married a George Smith in 1854 in Williamstown, Victoria. They had a son and a daughter and interestingly enough the stepbrothers, Edward William Pritchard and George Smith Jnr, married twins Mary Ann Baker and Jemima Baker, respectively.

I have been searching for Elizabeth's information for some time, only to find out that she is buried in Coburg, Victoria! And that she was born in Bangor, Wales in 1816, and died in Victoria in 1902. Her father was William Williams and her mother Jane Morris. (The names Smith and Morris were carried through as middle names to some of Edward William Pritchard and Mary Ann Baker's 14 children.)

So my search now is to find out where Owen Pritchard is buried, and when exactly and on what ship Elizbeth went to Australia.

Hi there
I'm not sure if you have this info?
In the grave at Coburg Cemetery C of E for Elizabeth Smith (passed away 26.3.1902 86yrs) is a Margaret Pritchard 69yrs buried 7th Jan 1910.

Also Jane N Coleman 22yrs and her child buried 5.10.1911.

Tina

Added: how very sad, Jane N was the daughter of Edward Prithcard and Mary Ann Baker.

Birth Jane Morris Pritchard
d/o Mary Ann nee Baker & Edward
1889 Victoria.
I've found a Margaret Pritchard in Preston 1909 census
a dressmaker in the High St. Perhaps a single lady?

Tina

Do we have an approximate dob for Owen? apart from "full" in 1845.

The nearest burials prior to the date of Elizabeth's departure, that I can find on Ancestry took place on 30th June, 1850, Liverpool St Paul. Owen Pritchard, 55 years, abode Vauxhall Road.

or at St John, Liverpool, on 25th November, 1841 (drowned 22nd November) 33 years, abode Westmoreland Street.

Of course Ancestry are far from a comprehensive list.