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meanings of letters

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 12:18
by colette
Hi all

need help with this marriage


1769
William PRATT Sojourner in tp B & Ann SHARMAN in tp W
15-6-1770 Sgd William PENTT AS X Wit. Elizabeth PRATT JJ


Sojourner means to reside temporarily what does the B mean and the JJ


Thanks xx

confused

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 12:25
by colette
The Banns for this marriage say

Willm PRATT & Ann SHARMAN born of this parish 20, 27-5, 3-6-1770

So i am a little confused as to if he was born in the parish or not :?

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 12:27
by Katie
Could the B stand for Batchelor

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 12:40
by MaryA
B is surely Bachelor as the W for Widow is after Ann's name.

Where can we see a copy of this image for ourselves ?

Re: confused

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 13:33
by dickiesam
colette wrote:The Banns for this marriage say

Willm PRATT & Ann SHARMAN born of this parish 20, 27-5, 3-6-1770

So i am a little confused as to if he was born in the parish or not :?
Hi,
I'd say William was not born in the parish [see letters 'tp' for 'this parish'] but Ann was. Sojourner is the same as a 'blow-in' where I live! As MaryA says B almost certain to be for Bachelor and the W for Widow.

For the JJ a meaning escapes me at present.

DS

Pratt

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 14:01
by colette
Hi all

and thanks for your input i got these records from a lady who was transcribing them.. they are for the parish of Stoneleigh Warwickshire..i have asked her if she has the originals i await her reply.

I had hit a brickwall many years ago with my 4x Great Grandfather Joseph Pratt..with the help of these records i have since found a burial for a Wiliam in 1836 aged 45 same address as my Josephs family so now i believe he was my Josephs son..

which now conects the William who married Ann Sharman to my Joseph i believe William senior could have been my Josephs father...


xx

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 16:46
by northmeols
try thissite collete

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rigenweb/abbrev.html

Sojourn Clothier Travelling clothes salesman

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/s.html

Pratt's

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 18:15
by colette
Hi

and thanks for the site...the records were transcribed a long time ago so she does not have access to them anymore.

Burial
1756
December 15th Mary PRATT Pauper of Stoneley
1782
April 16th Buried Ann wife of Willm PRATT of Stoneley
1794
April 20th Mary Dr of Joseph & Ann PRATT Kirby Corner Burnt to death
1804
March 8th Joseph son of Joseph & Ann PRATT Kirby Corner
1806
Jan 12th Hannah Dr of Joseph & Ann PRATT Kirby Corner
1827
Sept 9 Hannah PRATT Kirby Corner 69
1836
June 26 William PRATT Kirby Corner 45


Baptism
1773
April 13th Baptized Jno son of Wm & Ann PRATT of Stoneleigh
1784
Oct 18th Baptized Sarah daughter of Wm & Elizth PRATT Stoneley
1788
March 12th Mary Dr of Wm & Elizabeth PRATT
Sept. 7th Mary Dr of Joseph and Ann PRATT
1791
Sept. 25th Eliz Daugt of Joseph & Ann PRATT Kirby Corner
1793
Octr 6th Ann Dr of Joseph & Ann PRAT Kirby Corner
1796
July 17th Sarrah Dr of Joseph & Ann PRATT K Corner
1799
Sept 8th Mary Dr of Joseph & Ann PRATT Kirby Corner
1805
Novr 3rd Hannah Dr of Joseph & Ann PRATT Kirby Corner
1837
Sept 17 Thomas Edwin son of Joseph & Mary PRATT Kirby Corner Shoemaker


Banns
1770
Willm PRATT & Ann SHARMAN born of this parish 20, 27-5, 3-6-1770
1783
William PRATT & Elizth WESSTON b. otp 5, 12, 19-10-1783



Marriage
1670
Richard PRAT & Mary BALIESS were mar: April 16
1769
William PRATT Sojourner in tp B & Ann SHARMAN in tp W
15-6-1770 Sgd William PENTT AS X Wit. Elizabeth PRATT JJ
1777
Richard WARD otp W & Elizabeth HAILS otp S 17-2-1778 Both X Wit. Wm PRATT JJ
1783
William PRATT otp W & Elizabeth WESTON otp S 20-10-1783 Both sgd Wit. John WESTON Hannah GARLICK Kings Tax began 3d

I have Joseph & Ann Johnson married Kenilworth Warks 1786..Joseph born Warks c 1760 according to 1841 census he dies 1844

what i am stuck on is who was Josephs parents.and was the William born c 1791 his son,,if he was then Josephs father could have been a William as thye named first born son after dads back then.

also Josephs daughter Mary who was burnt to death aged 6 in 1794 would there be inquest records that far back.

thanks guys xxxxxxxxx

Posted: 27 Aug 2011 10:18
by MaryA
To discover whether there are any inquest records you would need to check the local Record Office, http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/countyrecordoffice where you may also be able to see the original marriage document. If you managed to get a photograph of it you might find out that you have a different opinion about those letters, also the staff might have been asked that question before, they might know something about the abbreviations marked against entries.

Nothing found in the old newspapers online.