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James McLean missing from 1891 census

Posted: 12 Aug 2011 09:51
by thenancollii
There is a James McLean from Liverpool in Gillingham Gaol at the time of the 1891 census but I am having trouble accessing records to prove he is mine. I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction please.

Posted: 12 Aug 2011 12:22
by MaryA
I think you need to check the Quarter Sessions records which should be available at the Record Office.

Just having a look at the old newspapers at present to see if there is an entry for him between 1881 and 1891. Can you confirm that he was in Liverpool in 1881 to hope for an entry in the local Liverpool paper rather than for anywhere else? Also what is his date of birth?

Re: James McLean missing from 1891 census

Posted: 12 Aug 2011 12:39
by dickiesam
thenancollii wrote:There is a James McLean from Liverpool in Gillingham Gaol at the time of the 1891 census but I am having trouble accessing records to prove he is mine. I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction please.
For the benefit of the crew...

1891:
MCLEAN, James - Convict - u/m - 25 - 1866 - Liverpool.
Address: H M Prison Gillingham, Old Brompton, Chatham, Kent.
RG number: RG12 / Piece:665 / Folio:104 / Page:9


DS

Posted: 12 Aug 2011 12:46
by MaryA
I don't see anything in the old newspapers that would relate to this man, although if an offence took place in Kent I haven't seen any entries for that area so am not aware of whether they are available online or not.

Prison records

Posted: 12 Aug 2011 12:49
by dickiesam
Hi thenancollii,

Try an email query to the Kent Libraries. Contact # here:
http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure_and_cult ... aries.aspx

DS

Posted: 12 Aug 2011 13:08
by MaryA
From Criminal Registers
Liverpool Assizes 10 May, 1887
James McLean
Burglary (Three Indictments) and (on another Indictment)
wounding with intent to do grievous bodily harm
7 years in respect of the three Indictments for Burglary and
15 years in respect of the Indictment for wounding the sentence of
7 years to be concurrent with the sentence of 15 years penal servitude.

I'm sorry to say that this is the only I can find with a sentence long enough to carry him over 1891.

Posted: 13 Aug 2011 10:00
by Tina
Hi Mary
If it's not James, someone may Google and find lots of info from your post. Good one.
I was just wondering why he would be in Chatham? Navy??
Just a thought.

Tina

Posted: 13 Aug 2011 19:19
by MaryA
I don't know - would they imprison somebody out of the area if it were a more serious offence ?