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Hi all

i have a marriage the grooms surname is TRAMISECK

Now there is no trace of this surname anywhere.. he says he is born in Austria, does anyone have any idea what this name could be other than Tramiseck ?????

cheers xx

Hi Colette,
I googled the name with an 'Austria' tag and got a hit that might be of help:

http://forums.familysearch.org/en/showt ... hp?p=22962

Then tried the Austrian telephone book:
http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... ww.etb.at/

Searched on *amiseck in Vienna and got 2 hits on Tramsek.

Does your man appear in any UK census?

DS

Hi

Its Vic i am helping this search has been going on for a couple of years now.

You may recall Teresa Rebecca Lockwood (born Lpool 1864) who married William Halsall in Liverpool.. then in 1891 shes gone and hes down as married.

Vic found this marriage for Teresa R Lockwood in Newark New Jersey Aug 30th 1893 her parents Robert Lockwood & Alice Juster.. her mothers surname was Eustace..

So very similar we really think this is Teresa.so now the quest is to track this Michael and Teresa down any help appreciated

Thanks Colette

On www.ancestry.co.uk on the 1920 US Census there is a Michel TRAMSEK bn Austria 1872 with a wife Elizabeth. Her birth is given as 1883.

I cannot see the full entry as I don't have a world subscription - probably need to look it up in the library.

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3rd Elec District, New Jersey, Essex House No. 34
TRAMSEK
Michel Head Renting his house Male White 48 Married Year of Immigration 1966 Naturalised 1903 Can read and wright. Place of birth Austria, Mother tongue German. Both father and mother Austrian, mother tongue German. Able to speak English. Occupation Piano Tuner on his own account.

Elizabeth Wife 37 She and parents born New Jersey
Henry son 14, occupation Regulator in shipyard and John son 13
Year: 1920;Census Place: East Orange Ward 4, Essex, New Jersey; Roll: T625_1029; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 44; Image: 1024[/u]

To save folk having to open the FamilySearch site link I gave above, this is the information contained in it:

Originally Posted by 68pages
Hi,
I am trying to find Micheal Tramiseck born 1861 in Austria who married a Theres R Lockwood born 1869 on 20 August 1893 in Newark, Essex, New Jersey. I would like any information such as where they lived, children and their deaths. Thank you so much for reading this!

Response:

I have found a Micheal Grameseck in a 1910 US Census of Essex, NJ. It looks like when he came to the US his last name was either mispelled or was changed upon entry which was common at that time.
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DS

Hi all

got the 1900 & 1910 of a kind lady on GenesReu..


1900 United States Federal Census about Trinsa Tramsecik
Name: Trinsa Tramsecik
[Teresa Tramsecik]
Home in 1900: Newark Ward 7, Essex, New Jersey
[Newark, Essex, New Jersey]
Age: 28
Birth Date: Aug 1871
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1889 (Looks like 1891 on the image)
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 0
Mother: How many children: 0
Spouse's name: M* Tramsecik
Marriage Year: 1893
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 7

Household Members:
Name Age
M* Tramsecik 32 Occ: Carpenter
Trinsa Tramsecik 28
John Simurvich 34 Boarder
James D Coles 72 Boarder
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Newark Ward 7, Essex, New Jersey; Roll: T623_964; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 67.




1910 United States Federal Census about Fresa Grameseck
Name: Fresa Grameseck
[Thresa Tramiseck]
[Fresa Granisech]
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated birth year: 1871
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's name: Micheal Grameseck
Home in 1910: Newark Ward 13, Essex, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Name Age
Micheal Grameseck 44 Occ:Piano polisher
Fresa Grameseck 39
Charles Mc Gastler 14
Name: Charles Mc Gastler
[Charles Mcquatter]
[Charles Mcqastter]
Age in 1910: 14
Estimated birth year: 1896
Birthplace: Austria
Relation to Head of House: Nephew



What do you think ????


Teresa Rebecca Lockwood married William Henry Halsall in Birkenhead 1884, they had one daughter named Alice who died by 1891 William H was lodging in Toxteth down as married no Teresa around.He married his cousin in 1894 Sarah Randal Kelly but they had a daughter in 1892 so had to have been seeing each other a while before their marriage, Sarah also had another child in 1891 named William no father on birth cert.. so this could be the reason Teresa left him 3's a crowd.

The marriage for this Teresa to Michael Tramiseck 1893 fits perfect and gives her parents names too Robert & Alice, although as i said the mother Alice was put down as Juster when it should be Eustace.

There are no other Teresa R Lockwoods born in England with parents Robert & Alice


groom's name: Michael Tramiseck
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace: Austria
groom's age:
bride's name: Theres R. Lockwood
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace: England
bride's age:
marriage date: 20 Aug 1893
marriage place: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
groom's father's name: Joseph Tramiseck
groom's mother's name: Theresia Tresk
bride's father's name: Robert Lockwood
bride's mother's name: Alice Juster
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M53133-4
system origin: New Jersey-EASy
source film number: 1378068


cxx

Col,
There are just too many similarities, even exact matches, for that data you now have to be just coincidence. I'd say you have found her.

DS

Hi

I think its her too..the FAMILY SEARCH SITE is down at the mo so cant do any checking

xx

Colette you are amazing the way you help!! We have been looking for her for 4 years now!! and you have never given up looking for me! xx

But where is she after 1910?

Thank you so so much

Assuming he's massaged his age later to match a new wife, the entry in 1920 could still be him, there's a similarity of occupations.