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Ball family, millers of liverpool

Posted: 10 Jan 2011 21:52
by dave ball
Thanks to help from society members I have traced my 2nd G. Grandfather
as William Ball, b.1817 liverpool. he was the son of John Ball and Jane@lunt. who in turn was the son of John ball and elizabeth. All are recorded as millers. and the dates probably take us back into preindustrialisation of corn milling. Two of williams siblings were born in chisenhale st where I have seen an illustration showing a canal, Leeds/Liverpool?, 2 windmills and little other buildings dated 1814, north shore is also in my research.
Is there anyone who can assist the Ball/Lunt families or with any knowledge of corn milling in this area during 18th, 19th centuries

Posted: 11 Jan 2011 10:39
by daggers
Dave
First, welcome to the forum. There are very helpful people here who will do their best for you.

Next, you are right about the Leeds & Liverpool Canal, which runs under Chisenhale Street in the Vauxhall area of the city.

I have found little about local mills, having a miller in my background, in Wavertree, but he originated in Scotland. My interest is really from around 1850 when he brought his family south and set up in an established mill - once wind-powered but by then steam driven. He later had another mill, canalside in Bootle, but probably a more modern affair.

Have you any census details, as this will save the experts from ferreting around?
Daggers

Liverpool windmills.

Posted: 11 Jan 2011 12:08
by dickiesam

Posted: 11 Jan 2011 19:23
by dave ball
Thanks daggers an dickiesam, this was first post on any forum, I have established my liverpool roots back to the early 1800,s and from what I Have established Milling appears to undergone great change during this period, The photo of the mills in chisenhale st is the one I have seen and in view of the fact that 2 of my G,G grandfathers siblings were born in this st, there is a possibility that one of the mills may have a family connection. In 1841 william is with siblings in Mckee st, location not found, as millers, in 1851 william is some sort of shopman in scotland Road with all his family wrongly transcribed as BALE. From there the family seems to have disintegrated on the death of williams 28 year old wife.
Thanks for your help
dave

Posted: 12 Jan 2011 00:25
by jan44
:D

Hi Dave,

You mention in your above post McKee Street, it was in the Scotland Ward.

I had a look at the enumerators walk on the 1841 (on cd)

All that part of Scotland Ward comprising McKee Street and Nash Grove.

Ed 40 H0107 564 folio 24 in St Martins area (Scotland Road area)

Hope that helps a bit.

Jan

Posted: 12 Jan 2011 19:33
by dave ball
Hi Jan

Thanks for that, virtually every address I have in my research is in the Scotland road area so it does make sense.

dave
member no 7716