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Hi

I have found a Beatrice A Rudd on the Uk incoming passenger lists for 1904

Name: Beatrice A Rudd
Birth: abt 1878
Departure: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Arrival: 10 Aug 1904 - Liverpool, England

I think she may daughter of Alfred J & Elizabeth Rudd

iIthink there is a record of her going out to USA but as I don't have full access I can't see it, so don't know when it was or who she may have gone with

Also if she was out there for a few years, would she be on any census in USA?

Thanks

Simone x

I've found this but its for a Beatrice E. Rudd. The image is not a very good quality though. There is another one that looks to be the same person gong to New York in 1909.

Name: Beatrice E RUDD
Date of departure: 1 April 1903
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Philadelphia, USA
Passenger destination: Philadelphia, USA

Date of Birth: 1878 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital status: Single
Gender: Not specified
Occupation: Spinster

Hi Simone,
Found these two outgoing passengers..

Name: Beatrice E RUDD
[NOTE: The E is very indistinct. Could be an A]

Ship: WESTERNLAND
Date of departure: 1 April 1903
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Philadelphia, USA
Passenger destination: Philadelphia, USA

Date of Birth: 1878 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Spinster

Name: Beatrice E RUDD
Ship: CELTIC - White Star Line
Date of departure: 11 September 1909
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA
Age: Adult
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Domestic

Re being in a census. If she was a resident in the US at the time of a census she should have been recorded.

Cheers,
Dickiesam

simone wrote:Also if she was out there for a few years, would she be on any census in USA?

You would think so wouldn't you, but the only Beatrice A Rudd I can find in the 1900 census is born 1874, only a little out but the name is specific Beatrice A Rudd with the middle initial, but she is the wife of a William W Rudd, who are living in New York. Beatrice's place of birth is given as New York, also the column for her mother's birthplace states the same, although her father's states England.
William's occupation is a Boarding and Livery Stable Proprietor and his mother Jenny W is living with themin Putnam Avenue, Brooklyn.

simone wrote:iIthink there is a record of her going out to USA but as I don't have full access I can't see it, so don't know when it was or who she may have gone with

Can you tell me the name of the database you saw this entry on and I'll see if I can get the information?

The only one anywhere near the age in the 1910 census is born 1872, of black race and born Virginia.

Thanks for help everyone

She was definitely Beatrice Alice Rudd, so was just wondering if she went to USA, why did she go and who to may never know

saw the info on Ancestry Mary, New York passenger lists, but just says Beatrice, but maybe not her

Thanks again

Simone x

The reason I asked is that I clicked the link for Irish Immigrants : New York Port database (under the heading of Immigration) and got the message that it was no longer available

I have found another database

19 September 1881 on the Arizona
Mrs Eliz. Rudd 29
Beatrice 4
Lucy 2
Alfred Infant

Ooh Mary thanks that's them

wonder why they were there

No sign of dad Alfred ?
why the Irish immigrant database though.. they had nothing to do with Ireland

On that Irish Immigrant one are a couple of Brooker's I am not sure are mine as as well

Charlotte b 1805 and Charlotte born 1831 arrived 14/5/1850

don't get any of this.

I've been researching over 10 years and have only just found out that they were flitting back and forth to USA

Simone x

Forget I mentioned the Irish Emigrants database, that was the one that wasn't available. The above information was from the New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957

Ok Mary

Oh blinkey blimey... How frustrating... want to know why they went

Simone x

RE:

19 September 1881 on the Arizona

It is possible the Arizona sailed from Liverpool but made a pick-up call to an Irish port such as Queenstown (Cobh, Co Cork) to take on board Irish emigrants. That happened quite a lot. It is then possible that her entire passenger manifest would be included in the database as it would be quite difficult to pick out the 'non-Irish' aboard.

Dickiesam

Ahh that would explian it, thanks Brian

Simone x

hi

is anyone able to see if Beatrice Alice is around in Liverpool c 1910'ish she returned 1904

Thanks

Simone x

You can search the 1911 census index for yourself at www.1911census.co.uk Using this I can find no Beatrice Rudd with a birth year +/-3 years of 1877 either living in Liverpool or with Liverpool or Lancashire as a birthplace.

I repeat - please FORGET I mentioned that database, I had just wondered if that was the one you saw an entry in, it isn't the one I FOUND the entry in.

okey dokey Mary what database thanks again

Simone x