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Trouble with odd numbered houses on findmypast.co.uk

Posted: 16 Oct 2010 14:28
by dlh1
Has anyone else noticed that when you search for a street address on findmypast.co.uk it often only brings up search results for even numbered houses and not odd numbered houses. I've tried searching for houses on Tenterden street and Limekiln lane and most of the results are for even numbered houses. Does anyone know why this might be or how we can overcome this problem. I'm trying to access the 199 census for 125 limekiln lane but can't find it on findmypast. Before anyone asks, it does exist and is on 1911census.co.uk.

Dan

Posted: 16 Oct 2010 16:15
by Hilary
Not sure which census you want but the street address search on FMP for 1901 census shows 125 and 125a Limekiln Lane Liverpool. The same search for 1891 only shows 125a Limekiln Lane Liverpool.

Hilary
Ed Officer

Posted: 16 Oct 2010 19:43
by Slowcoach
I had the same problem, but with 1911. I found that by using the search address without 'street' attached produced the missing numbers. So searching with or without 'street / road' etc might help.

Odd numbered houses

Posted: 16 Oct 2010 20:03
by dickiesam
Hello Dan,
I don't think it's a problem that we, as subscribers, can overcome. I am fairly sure the lack of odd numbers in a street is because that side of the street hasn't yet been indexed from the enumerator's 'street list'.

I think it happens with even numbers as well. I have found on occasion that while you can locate a particular family living in a numbered dwelling in a particular street, when you try to find that dwelling via an address search you don't get any hits. The dwelling address hasn't been indexed. A contributary fact may be that the odd and even numbers on some streets may fall into different census 'areas'. Often I have found that say #25 XXX Street is several 'pages' away from #26; even in a different Folio or Piece.

As for Limekiln Lane, in the 1901, from an FMP street address search, #125 is occupied by:
O'REILLEY, Catherine - Head - Widow - 50 - 1851 - General Dealer Sweet Shop - Ireland.
Address: 125 Limekiln Lane, Liverpool
RG13 / Piece:3412 / Folio:15 / Page:21

And 125a has:
ADAMS, Richard E - Head - Md - 26 - 1875 - Coal Dealer - Liverpool.
ADAMS, Flora J - Wife - 25 - 1876- Liverpool.
ADAMS, Elizabeth M - Dtr - 3 - 1898 - Liverpool.
ADAMS, Flora - Dtr - 1 - 1900 - Liverpool.
Address: 125a, Limekiln Lane, Liverpool
RG13 / Piece:3412 / Folio:15 / Page:21

Dickiesam

Posted: 16 Oct 2010 21:42
by Hilary
The Street address search for Tenterden Street in 1901 on FMP only gives odd numbered houses no even numbered ones!

Hilary
Ed Officer

1894 Directory

Posted: 17 Oct 2010 10:33
by Tina
Hi not much help with Gores/Kelly 1894 the number in Limekiln Lane not listed.
It does say between Myer's Place & Tatlock St.

At number 18 Tenterden St it lists Mrs Catherine O'Relly
shopkeeper.

Tina

Posted: 17 Oct 2010 13:42
by dlh1
Thanks for all your help. It's with the 1911 census that I'm having trouble with. I can't seem to find who lives in 125 limekiln Lane or other addresses for that matter from that area. It's frustrating because I think most of my ancestors lived in odd numbered houses at that time lol.

Dan

Posted: 17 Oct 2010 14:15
by Katie
Accordng to Gores 1911 125 Limekiln Lane Mrs. Eliza Murphy Grocer

Odd numbered houses

Posted: 17 Oct 2010 14:17
by dickiesam
Hello Dan,
The problem in this case is indeed one of a mis-indexing!

Try a wild card search for "Limekiln *" [with the space between 'n' and asterisk but without the quotes] and enter Liverpool and Lancashire as Residential place and County respectively.

You should get two results:
1) Limekiln Lancashire Liverpool; and
2) Limekiln Lane

1) = the odd numbers; 2) = the even ones. The first one has been indexed and titled incorrectly and I suggest you email FMP to advise them of the fact and the trouble you had tracking down the other side of the street!

Do the search "Tenterden *" for Tenterden Street as well.

Brian 8)

Posted: 05 Mar 2011 17:57
by dlh1
Another query regarding 125 Limekiln lane.

I've been looking at the electoral registers and both 125 Limekiln lane & 125a limekiln lane appear up until 1924. after then all I can find is 125a limekiln lane.

Does everyone agree with me that this property was probably demolished or perhaps turned into something else other than a dwelling?

If anyone can comment on this I'd be happy to hear from you.

Posted: 05 Mar 2011 19:23
by MaryA
I don't know if it's any help since I don't know how long the building has been there, but the League of Welldoers is 119-133 Limekiln Lane.

The League of Welldoers at 119-133 Limekiln Lane

Posted: 05 Mar 2011 19:31
by dickiesam
Looks like they are still there in Limekiln Lane. here's their new website:
http://www.welldoers.org/
There's certain to be a contact address.

DS

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 09:31
by Tina
What a great bunch of people!
In 1938 Directory Shelter for Homeless Ex Servicemen
117 to 121 Limekiln Lane

Tina

sometimes letter a means living above premises not next door or down the lane.

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 10:44
by Katie
League of Welldoers now known as the Lee Jones Centre. They have a marvelous collection of photographs including a few of my great aunt Phoebe on a Darby and Joan outing to New Brighton. The records for the Welldoers are in Merseyside Record Office Collection undr 387 LWD.

Had a look through them once they gave out chits for boots to people who had walked from Newcastle