ORPHANAGES

[mark sh]

hey tina many many many thanks to you and your friend appreciated greatly im on my knees bowing to you both really there are records here from fazackerley cottage homes that has william a, george d ,and jessie in and out a number of times i have a third party form but how do i prove jessie has died if i carnt find her to get her records was hopeing these records would point the way to where she started her journey did find a jessie in a paper cutting yesterday but again proving its her. walter oswell and susans kids were alfred, walter o jnr, robert and fredrich their wifes were hattie, fanny, kittyand olive their kids were mavis, bob, betty, victor and ted found in paper the argus also found walter oswell and fredrich were missing in action prisoner of war in malaya hey thanks again tina i owe you greatly so i supose the question on everyone s lips is wheres jessie????????????

[mark sh]

was just wondering would it be possible for jessie to use say her mothers surname or would she have to use shalliker would she have to have a passport if so where would she apply for that from in those days thanks mark ...

[Tina]

Thanks Mary, yes I will certainly pass on our thanks. She's so dedicated when it comes to Child Migrants and loves a challenge.

[Tina]

Hi Mark, must have missed it previously about the kiddies being in and out of Fazakerley Cottage Homes.
I don't know how you fill in a third party form, someone in the forum is sure to know.
She may not have needed a passport if she went with other kiddies overseas, some sort of bulk visa?
Yes she could have been given a new surname and even first name, who knows?

[Tina]

Mark, the wives you listed for the Shalliker boys could be nicknames.
I've found Frederick in electoral rolls, he's a wicker worker wife is Catherine Elizabeth (Kitty?)
Gaffney St, Coburg Vic (8k's n of Melb) 1931 census.
Ditto 1942
By 1954 they've moved to the beautiful spot of Queenscliff Vic.

[Hilary]

I would send a covering letter with the third party form explaining what you know, why you are trying to find out about her and her birth certificate or definite evidence of her date of birth. If she is still alive she would be 99 so it is likely she has died but of course not improbable that she is still living.

Get someone to check the letter to make sure it covers what you want and is spelt, punctuated and has some capital letters!!!

They may be prepared to allow you the information.

[mark sh]

thanks for that hilary after reading your reply i phoned liverpool research library and spoke to Roger Hull he s fine with sending info from fazakerley cott homes but theres no case history just records of who brought them and took them and next of kin just seems jessie shalliker 1913 have vanished off the face of the planet there seems to be a whole host in australia and some here in liverpool still but not jessie thanks again for your info really appreciate the help mark ...

[Tina]

From Trove newspapers 12.6.1948
Betty Shalliker d/o Mr & Mrs F Shalliker, Coburg to
Ian Bruce McPhail.

14.3.1949
Funeral for the late Mrs Susan Shalliker tomorrow Tues
at Fawkner Crematorium Coburg.

21.10.1946
3 persons injured in road accident trying to avoid 2 children on bicycles.
One was Frederick Shalliker 40 of Coburg, all treated at Melbourne
Hospital for cuts & abrasions & allowed to go home.

Victorian Genealogy Soc Crosses to remember database
lists Fred Shalliker whom you mentioned.
P.O.W Burma Railway. 2/10 Field Co. R.A.E
Walter Shalliker W.W.1

[mark sh]

thanks tina got a couple of head stone photo s over here charles shalliker hannah shalliker son john shalliker and wife buried liverpool thornton cemetery alfred olive and victor in queenscliff cem victoria au seem to be getting a bit more done but poor jessie i just dont know would she need a passport or t be on a passenger list getting fazakerley cott homes info from liverpool research library but that seems to be last official place she was known to be trying to get further into oz too julie who is living is from NSW but now lives in victoria guess she must be on the walter o line somewhere theres a ken shalliker here living who was part of the dominoes (band) in the 60s he builds guitars nice to hear from you tina thanks again appreciated lots mark ...

[mark sh]

well i now know jessie was in and out of fazakerley cott homes until 25th aug 1929 thats the last entry which would make her 15 almost 16 they have D.O.B 17/11/1913 i thought it was june after that nothing

[dickiesam]

well i now know jessie was in and out of fazakerley cott homes until 25th aug 1929 thats the last entry which would make her 15 almost 16 they have D.O.B 17/11/1913 i thought it was june after that nothing

Hi Mark,
With the absence of Jessie from both the death and marriage indexes [including WW2 deaths] up to 2005 and the Outgoing Passenger Lists up to 1960, I would have a look at the Electoral Rolls from 2000 to 2012. While she may have emigrated after 1960, there's a possibility she was still alive up to 2005 and still in the UK. http://tracegenie.com/ will give you a full 24 hours continuous access for just £3.50.

EDIT TO ADD: 'continuous access' means don't log off from the site once you have started. If you do you lose the rest of your 24 hours!

[mark sh]

hi thanks for that the story was she was sent to oz for pinching a hinge but theres no trace anywhere thanks for the tip will try that appreciated mark

[dickiesam]

The story was she was sent to oz for pinching a hinge but there's no trace anywhere.

While 'child transportation' had ended almost a century earlier there is the possibility that if she was a 'difficult' child persistently in trouble the authorities got fed up and included her in a group of children being sent to a "better life" in Australia. In addition to the infamous THE BRITISH CHILD EMIGRATION SCHEME TO CANADA (1870-1957) children were also sent to Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
See http://basementgeographer.blogspot.ie/2 ... ldren.html

Possibly of interest: http://www.jubileecampaign.co.uk/child- ... -of-change

[mark sh]

thanks for the info dickiesam sorry been so long hhad a 12 day migraine my eyes still dont focus properly carnt find her on elec rolls either this is a mystery thanks mk

[dickiesam]

thanks for the info dickiesam sorry been so long hhad a 12 day migraine my eyes still dont focus properly carnt find her on elec rolls either this is a mystery thanks mk

No problem Mark. Sorry to hear you get those very nasty migraines. We'll keep thinking and looking.

[mark sh]

thanks its my first one really used to get the eye bit colour pattens but not migraine like that it was evil had MRI today and bsd head again thanks for your input and time jessie is a mystery funny cart think how to spell either lol mark...

[Hilary]

In 1929 the school leaving age was 14 so my guess is that when Jessie left the homes she went into employment. Homes tended to find their children employment and often that was younger than 15/16.

Maybe she changed her name and got married using a different name. She could perhaps have gone to the Isle of Man and would only show in their records. If she was sent elsewhere or chose to go elsewhere she would appear in the passenger lists either leaving the country or entering another country such as Australia.