National Burial Index

[5anderson]

Here is where the spelling is strange:

1841 Welsh Census:
Class: HO107; Piece 1455; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Knighton; County: Radnorshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 5; Page: 7; Line: 20; GSU roll: 464349

1851 Welsh Census:
Class: HO107; Piece: 2493; Folio: 95; Page: 19; GSU roll: 104255.

[dickiesam]

Here is where the spelling is strange:

The writing of Mac instead of Mc was relatively common. With low levels of literacy very few people knew the exact spelling of their surnames, if it could be spelt a number of ways.

In 1851 both mother and daughter appear to be entered on the census summary sheet as Mary M Willian hence the transcription. If you look at the page closely the enumerator actually wrote Mc Millian, the 'c' being a very light stroke of the pen, almost a dot. You could justifiably send in a correction, with evidence from the 1941 and 1861.

And I agree with MaryA that it is extremely unlikely that a marriage was never registered. It was a legal requirement that a marriage had to be registered and as you say Mary appears to have done everything else as it ought to be done. There is a possibility that William Robert was already married. Divorce was very difficult and prohibitively expensive procedure back then having to be done in the High Courts in London.

Could that situation have brought about the apparently dramatic change in the family's fortunes? William was a substantial employer in Worcester in 1861 with a shop on the High Street and within ten years he was an employee, a clothier's assistant, in Liverpool.

DS

[5anderson]

I understand exactly what you are saying but the money that they had came from the mother-in-law Mary (nee Cane) McMillian. If you looked in the 1851 Census she was living on an inheritance. Her father had owned a spa/hotel in Wales. In 1841 her children were in a small private boarding school while she managed the Inn for her father John Cane, the Pumphouse in Llandrindod, Radnorshire, Wales. If you notice until the mother-in-law dies she resides with them. She ended up dying in the Walton Workhouse and I think that was because she was paralysed. I think they went on an adventure spending her money. William Robert Parry had apprenticed in Tywn, Wales in the 1851 then in 1861 is with the McMillian crew. I am trying to find their deaths which is proving to be as elusive as the marriage. LOL I think Mary (McMilliam) Parry died between 1901-1911. My biggest problem is having a lack of understanding for the geography of Liverpool. So it makes it difficult for me to figure out where they are buried. I think it would have to have been close to where they lived because of the lack of transportation. I think if I find one of the graves then I have found all three. The mother-in-lae Mary McMillian died in the Walton Workhouse but I believe it was the infirmary. She died the 28 Feb 1875. So I am thinking that where ever she is so is her daughter and William Robert.

[MaryA]

It surprises me that Mary McMillian (Feb 1875) isn't buried in Walton Park if she died in Walton Workhouse - albeit the Infirmary. These records are available online and I have checked February and March without finding her. Have also looked at the RC records (mainly Ford) also without success.

Was she in Liverpool in 1871? and at what address?

[5anderson]

In a previous post I have the 1871 censuss info. Please send me an email and I will sent you an invite to my Ancestry.com page. If you already have an account you can find my page -- its a public page. Parry on the site you can see the certificates I have and all the data that I have found. My only wish is that I could walk into the Liverpool Library and do some research there. I am hindered by being across the Atlantic. [/img]