Whittaker

[russfam]

Hello there everyone,

I am looking for my family:-

Whittaker Children:-
Mary, (Maybe a Son called Alfie & John?) Sarah, Rose, Peggy

Whittaker
Her Father called Edward Whittaker B:- 1877, Married 1896. His wife was called Mary Campbell B:- 1879.


My mother was call Elizabeth B:- 19.10.1915
She married Alan Guthrie Lawson

Lawson
My Dad B:- 20.7.1919

Jarman
My Gran was Margaret Jarman B:- abt 1892
She Married Robert Lawson 25.5.1918. B:- 1784

Whittaker/Smithwick

Mary Smithwick

I was wondering if anyone could help me pretty please?

Love and light to you all

Maggie Russell

[CaroleW]

Hi Maggie and welcome to this forum

This is Alan's birth registration

Births September qtr 1919

Alan G Lawson mothers maiden name Jarman Birkenhead 8a 860

per www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1918 to 1920
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LAWSON Alan Guthrie Wallasey Wirral WAL/137/70

Probable marriage for his parents

Marriages June qtr 1918

Robert Lawson and Margaret E Jarman West Derby 8b 885

The marriage is on LancashireBMD but was a Registry Office/Registrar attended so cannot be looked up in parish records

[CaroleW]

Edward Whittaker and Mary Campbell married December qtr 1896 West Derby 8B 280

Again the marriage is on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk but but was a Registry Office/Registrar attended

The free1911 index shows an Alfred Whittaker b 1904 and there is an Edward Whittaker in the same household

The 1911 is strictly pay per view so you would need to buy credits to view the full entry

I cannot find Edward on the 1901 census at the moment

[CaroleW]

I have found an Edward Whittaker on the 1901 but he was b 1879 and wife is shown as May but they were living next door to John Campbell 33 and wife Sarah 32

All b Liverpool and living in Tenterden St

Edward Whittaker 22 corporation cart man
May/Mary 21
May 2
Edward 2mths
RG13 Piece 3411 Folio 122 Page 69

[Tina]

Good one Carole...so quick!

Tina

[CaroleW]

Maggie has sent me a pm to say she does have a copy of the 1896 marriage cert

Edward was 19 and his father was Thomas

Mary was 17 and her father was John

I have given her the link to the 1881 census and there is an Edward b 1877 Liverpool with a father Thomas but he is the only one that matches the profile

Maggie

You need to look at that entry and compare Thomas's occupation on the 1896 marriage cert (if shown as he was deceased) You also need to look at the witnesses names to see if either was a Whittaker

There is a Thomas Whittaker death in 1889 which would fit his age

[CaroleW]

The 1891 has this entry for 117 Park St Toxteth - indexed as Whitter but image says Whitker so I'll leave it up to you to decide

All born Liverpool

Thomas Ryan 29
Catherine 27
Emily 2
Peter 9mths
Edward Whitker 14 adopted - bakers shop boy
RG12 Piece 2928 Folio 112 Page 3

[CaroleW]

This is the only likeley birth for a Margaret E Jarman

Births March qtr 1892

Margaret Elizabeth Jarman West Derby 8b 349

1901 census for 24?? St - all b Liverpool

Margaret Jarman 48
Alexandra 22
Lilian 17
George 14
Stanley 11
Margaret 9
RG13 Piece 3469 Folio 22 Page 36

1891 for 59 Barlow St - all b Liverpool except Alexander

Alexander Jarman 43 commission agent b Ireland
Margaret 40
Alexandra 13
William 8
George 5
Stanley 2

Boarders

John N Manley 37
Clara 35
Clara 12
Annie 10
RG12 Piece 2960 Folio 90 Page 22

[russfam]

This is the only likeley birth for a Margaret E Jarman

Births March qtr 1892

Margaret Elizabeth Jarman West Derby 8b 349

1901 census for 24?? St - all b Liverpool

Margaret Jarman 48
Alexandra 22
Lilian 17
George 14
Stanley 11
Margaret 9
RG13 Piece 3469 Folio 22 Page 36

1891 for 59 Barlow St - all b Liverpool except Alexander

Alexander Jarman 43 commission agent b Ireland
Margaret 40
Alexandra 13
William 8
George 5
Stanley 2

Boarders

John N Manley 37
Clara 35
Clara 12
Annie 10
RG12 Piece 2960 Folio 90 Page 22

I believe this is the right info 1901 census.

I wish we had something like this in Dorset, I feel I need a One to One

love and light to you all Maggie xx

[CaroleW]

Hi Maggie

I wish we had something like this in Dorset, I feel I need a One to One

All the info I have posted was obtained from the internet

Freebmd has too many Robert Lawson births to know which is the right entry so you would need to buy a copy of the Lawson/Jarman marriage cert to establish his birthyear and his fathers name

[CaroleW]

Using only the free 1911 index - I located Edward Whittaker aged 34 living in Liverpool Lancashire

There are a number of other Edward Whittakers on the index but living in other areas of Lancashire including West Derby

If you use the instructions below - you will find all family members. Ignore the index entries living in the West Derby district and only use the ones living in Liverpool district

USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH

You will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same name in the same household

[russfam]

Hi Maggie

I wish we had something like this in Dorset, I feel I need a One to One

All the info I have posted was obtained from the internet

Freebmd has too many Robert Lawson births to know which is the right entry so you would need to buy a copy of the Lawson/Jarman marriage cert to establish his birthyear and his fathers name

Hi honey,
I have their Marriage Cerf!!

I have found Campbell - Whittaker - Lawson Buries But I hope some of the info is correct! I have only been doing this for a few days, a big learning curve for this 61 year old..

Do you know of any other Cementory's carn't spell getting past my bed time!!

This is not getting any housework done lol!!

I will check the rest out tomorrow ref:- 1911 census which you sent 10:35 OK. Once again a big thank you


How long have you been doing this?

Best wishes Maggie

[CaroleW]

Can you post the following details from the 1918 marriage cert:

Date of marriage

Robert's age and occupation and whether he was a bachelor or widower

His fathers name and occupation

Names of the witnesses if either had the surname Lawson

[russfam]

Can you post the following details from the 1918 marriage cert:

Date of marriage

Robert's age and occupation and whether he was a bachelor or widower

His fathers name and occupation

Names of the witnesses if either had the surname Lawson

Hi Carole,

Cerf copy of marriage:- Application Number COL823326

1918 @ REGISTER OFFICE IN District of West Derby Liverpool
Married 25 May 1918
Robert Lawson Age 34
bachelor
Dock Clerk
9 Adelaide Rd
Father John Lawson he was a French Polisher

Margaret Elizabeth Jarman
26 spinster
Clerk
17 (Fairfield Rd? I can not read it correctly) West Derby
Father Alexander George Guthrie Jarman (Deceased)
Chief Office Merchant Service

In Presence
(?) J Mc Culloch
Margaret Mc Millen

John Wallace Registrar

(MXC 981585)


MARRIAGE App Number:- COL823326 Unsure why these number are the Same as above?

1896 St Josephs Church Liverpool
22 Nov 1896
Edward Whittaker Age 19 (B)
Carter
2 Court Birkett St Lpool
Father Thomas Whittaker (Deceased) Carter


Mary Campbell Age 17 (S)
No Job SAME ADDRESS
Father John Campbell Butcher

Presence:-
J Woods
Annie Courigan

Priest Joseph Rigby?

(MXC 981228)

Also trying to find out which Cemetery's sites for BIRKENHEAD?

I have joined Ancestry UK & USA.

Best regards

Maggie

[MaryA]

Information about Cemeteries on the Wirral

[CaroleW]

1891 census for 1 Bidder/Bidden St Liverpool - all b Liverpool

John Lawson 33 French polisher
Louisa 27
Robert 6
John A 4
Albert 1
Thomas McCulloch 55 father in law Tailor
Jane 53 mother in law
Thomas 22 brother in law
Robert 17 ditto
Maud 14 sister in law
RG12 Piece 2922 Folio 83 Page 16

1901 for 1 Bidder St - all b Liverpool except the boarder

John Lawson 43 French polisher
Louisa 39
Robert 17 French polisher
John 15
Albert 12
Thomas 9
Leonard 7
Gladys 4
Lilly 3 Months
Mary Gurski 34 b Poland - Russian subject - boarder
RG13 Piece 3425 Folio 12 Page 15

John & Louisa's marriage is on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk in 1882 Louisa is incorrectly shown as McCalloch per GRO index. Marriage was in the December qtr 1882

[CaroleW]

Hi Maggie

Can I suggest that you print off all my replies and then get the info down on a software programme that will let you determine what other info you may need to fill in any gaps

I could go further back with these families but I don't want to overwhelm you with a stack of info and leave you with a problem trying to sort it all out

Gently does it as we say!!