Address query.

Post by **PJLong** » 01 Mar 2010 09:18

Morning each....just spotted something on another topic:

[quote] "Could it be that this was just an accomodation address to claim residence in the parish?"[/quote]
I wondered if this often happened? I ask as that old b****r William Lindsay and his betrothed gave addresses of Gerrard St on their marriage cert' .....no house number though. I've established that she was actually only 16 when they married so could there have been odd goings on? As you all know - I can't find him on the 1891 census (the year they wed)

Kindest regards, Pauline.

Post by **MaryA** » 01 Mar 2010 09:56

We have often suspected that this practice is quite common, one reason may well be as you have wondered, because the couple were below the age of consent. Another might be because of the church they wished to marry in.

We've often heard about somebody "leaving a suitcase in the hall", if the couple lived in different parishes there would also be the cost of two sets of banns being read, using an accommodation address often cut that cost down.

Post by **PJLong** » 01 Mar 2010 11:23

Cheers Mary.........I suspected things weren't straightforward as 10 years after the marriage (1901 census) William and the missus were only 26 and 25!!!!

Post by **Heli** » 01 Mar 2010 13:19

Hi!

As Mary says, this seems to be a fairly common practice, and for various reasons. In my case I suspect it is because a lot of my ancestors were members of the Orange Order and certain Anglican Churches were regarded as practising Roman Catholic rites. A number lived in the parish of St John the Baptist, Park Road, which was a very "high" church and also a very beautiful church, but they chose to marry in St Cleopas which was a "low" church. I wonder if the 36 Stopford Street address was provided by the Orange Order.

Heli

Post by **Tina** » 02 Mar 2010 10:52

Hi Heli
Have you a time frame for when you think the Lodge took over in Stopford St?
1894 was a householder.
Thanks me dear
Tina

Post by **Tina** » 02 Mar 2010 11:03

Hi PJ
They may have wed in 1891, was it in time for the census or would they both be single when census was taken??
Their first child in 1901 is only 8 yrs old..

Did he marry Annie Parkinson?
If so it wasn't until Dec 1891

Tina

Post by **Heli** » 02 Mar 2010 12:29

Hi Tina!

Don't want to hijack this thread, so have sent you a PM.

Heli!

Post by **Tina** » 03 Mar 2010 01:46

Thanks Heli, got it!

Tina

Post by **PJLong** » 04 Mar 2010 08:14

Hi Tina, yes, William and Annie married Dec 25th 1891. The census that year has Annie with her folks (aged 16 in Pitt St) On the marriage cert' I thought it a tad suspicious that the road (Gerard St) was given as their address - but no numbers. Can't find any proof that they married young as she was expecting? To this day can't find William nor any of his brothers on the 1891!

Post by **Tina** » 04 Mar 2010 09:46

Hiya P.J
Thanks for reply.
Christmas Day marriages were very popular, sometimes it was their only day off work, particularly in domestic service.
Margaret Alice (8 in 1901) was rego'd Dec qtr 1892.
Doesn't look like a "shotgun" marriage to me??
My Eds grannie gave her address as Marybone Lpool on marr cert St Peters, she was born in Woolton, never left until she married & lived in Garston all of her life..
Tina

Post by **Tina** » 04 Mar 2010 10:18

Lo tis me again.
1881 do I have the right family, Mum Margaret & 4 boys that you cannot find in 1891? Wm 5?
Margt's Mum is with them, Margt Pollard.
There's a Margt Pollard in 1891 census, listed as grandma also in census are Geo C Lindsay 22 & Wm S Lindsay 15 as nephews.
Thomas G Scott is head of family born Durham.
wife Sarah E bn 1856 Lpool.
Not sure if this is a good lead for you.

Tina