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Can't find birth

Post by jimw1 »

Hi All, researching my Gt Grandfather Charles Wilberforce who was born in1818, I can't find any mention of him in the familysearch.org IGI. It lists his father Mark Wilberforce and other children, namely a Frances Jane, Mary, John, Peter, and Christopher, but not Charles. I know Mark is Charles father as his name is on Marks death certificate. Any ideas anyone?

Jim

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hello Jim

have you tried

find my past

good luck Doe 7631

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The most likely explanation is that he was baptised at a church that is not on the IGI. The familysearch website does not contain every church register but just some.

The Mark and Betty were married at St Annes Liverpool, their children John (1812), Mary (1814) Peter (1816) and Christopher (1823) were baptised at Holy Trinity and Frances Jane at Childwall in 1820. I think you will have to search the surrounding churches fro Charles' baptism. It's even possible he was baptised at St Annes as there must have been a reason for the couple marrying there.

I did look on www.lan-opc.org.uk but no Charles Wilberforce. this is an ongpoing website and more transcription are loaded practically daily so it's always worth checking.

Films of Liverpool Church registers are held at Liverpool Record Office.

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:D

Could this be Charles Baptism on the anc site but name as Wilberface?

Childwall

Name: Charles Welberface
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1817
Christening Date: 13 Jan 1818
Christening Place: Childwall, Lancashire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Mark Welberface
Mother's Name: Betty

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Clarke, McLeod, Pendleton (Liverpool and I.O.M.) Coltham, Cowley, Nickson, Huyton, Grisdale, Quirk, Knowles, Street, Howard. Knubley.

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I like it Jan

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:lol:

It's not on the familysearch site,

But here is the film number.

Film Number: 1068853.

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Clarke, McLeod, Pendleton (Liverpool and I.O.M.) Coltham, Cowley, Nickson, Huyton, Grisdale, Quirk, Knowles, Street, Howard. Knubley.

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Post by Tina »

Hi everyone
Good wombating gals!!
Charles in one census states bn Lpool in another Wavertee whereas his bro John states Wavertree all the way.
(hence the bapts at Holy T W'tree)

Hi Jim
I'll list this 1841 post as it could help expand your tree.
There is a child Mark in this family which was quite an unusual name at the time.
William Wilberforce 45 Wavertree Village transcribed as Wilberforn
HO107/pce 511/Bk 9
folio 37/page 2

Tina
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Hi Jan, you have hit the nail on the head, that is it, :D thanks very much for your hard work. I found one mispelling on the 1881 census transcription, (Wilberford instead of Wilberforce) that gave me a headache. I will get that info onto my tree.

Tina, I know about Mark Wilberforce (younger version) in Wavertree, and as far as I can make out he is no relation, although they did live close to wher my lot lived.

To everyone who has researched this for me. Thank you.


Jim W.

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