Pendleton Family c 1900 to 1910 in Bootle.

[lynne99]

Right I have a big problem.
James Pendleton and Elizabeth "Eliza" Gray had 6 children. They lived at 57 Park Street Bootle. In 1911 they put all 6 children in the census (all with the surname Pendleton) They said Margaret b 1884 Bootle (West Derby) was married 2 years with 0 children. (Source Citation
Class: RG14; Piece: 22441) I have found a marriage for 2 Margaret Pendletons 1) West Derby 1906 to William Dimber or Dimler 2) 1907 West Derby to John Tyrer. I have also found another 1911 census, also Bootle, for Margaret Dimler (mistranscribed as b c 1886 who had been married 5 years with 2 children. Are these the same person ??
Dunlee) Source Citation
Class: RG14; Piece: 22439

Her brother Thomas b 1886 is also down as married on the family's census in 1911. It says he has been married but no time or children mentioned. I have found another census for a Thomas Pendleton with Mary Elizabeth formerly Hind, in Recreation St. Bootle. They had been married for 1 year with 1 child. Looking back from this they married in 1910 West Derby and it appears she was a widow nee Evans. (Step children on census)

Is it possible that the parents put all 6 children down, even if they did not live there.
Thoughts Please Thanks in anticipation
Lynne

[Bertieone]

Ruled out, Father's name.

Name:
Margaret Pendleton
Gender:
Female
Marital status:
Single
Age:
25
Birth Date:
1882
Marriage Date:
18 Sep 1907
Marriage Place:
Kirkby, Lancaster, England
Father:
Robert Pendleton
Spouse:
John Tyrer

[MaryA]

I suspect the 1906 marriage to William Dimler is the right one as it took place in Litherland, St Philip

[MaryA]

Is it possible that the parents put all 6 children down, even if they did not live there.

Absolutely, I got quite a shock when I saw my great grandfather's census entry, he was living alone yet listed all his children, there were a couple I hadn't known about and one who I thought might have died as a child in Ireland, but I found out a lot about him and his family after this clue.

[Bertieone]

Yes and James Pendleton, snr, has misunderstood the question?

Sight of the marriage cert needed to be absolutely sure, what is in favour, James Pendleton,19, was a Butchers assistant, William Dimler was a Butcher.

[lynne99]

Thanks. I had not come across that type of error in the census return before. Why did they think she had only been married 2 years and 0 children, when the Maragaret I found had been married since 1906 and had 2 children.
Are my ideas on Thomas correct ? Thanks

[Bertieone]

There wasn't a marriage, Liverpool/West Derby in 1909, Margaret Pendleton.

Perhaps that was another mistake and he meant 2 children born, none died?

[Bertieone]

Are my ideas on Thomas correct ? Thanks

No certs available online for either of the children, what is available show Thomas having a father, James. Like his possible father he's a Carter.

Not conclusive proof though, need sight of the certs.

[lynne99]

They are ot my direct line ancestors, but are blood related. Perhaps I'll wait until there is a DNA link with the family.
The marriage of Thomas in 1910 Name:
Thomas Pendleton
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Age: 28
Birth Date: 1882
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1910
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: James Pendleton
Spouse: Elizabeth Hind
FHL Film Number: 1545943
Reference ID: it 3 p 217
Gives father as James, which is correct. I think I will go with that. As he is still in Bootle on the 1911 census with his wife and step children and mother in law.