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That's so great to hear Daisy! Do you remember the name of your dad's shop at the corner of Juno St/Harbord St? Wonderful that you still have his shop books. Was the furniture shop a second hand one as well?

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Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, my dad's shop was indeed a second hand shop,situated on Chatsworth st, he sold second hand furniture, tools, household goods indeed anything that people needed or wanted to sell, it was hard times. He had premises on the corner of Juno St and Harboard St which were used only
as an overflow for the shop. If I remember correctly the store as we called it was only one room ,which must have been a shop at sometime, certainly not big enough to have been a house. Hope some of this helps.

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Re: Juno Street

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Thank you Daisy! Was this the store at the corner Juno St/Harbord St by any chance?

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c1950s

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Some general links:-

Juno Street - 1861 census images

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=513754


Juno Street - 1939 Register free address search and previews

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/address ... 3b2e0c96a7


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Re: Juno Street

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Thanks Juno, the picture looks very much like the store as I remember it, although the name above is different, our name was Frost, and there was no name above that I remember, possibly an earlier tennent.
I have been having a look through my dad's old shop books and found a Mrs Huges, living at 15 Juno St, dated 5/6/1951
Lots of others, Woodside st, Harboard St, Chatsworth St, a whole trip down memory lane. Thanks again for the photo, I don't know where you would have found that.
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Thank you Blue for these links. I wasn't aware of the possibility to search/list by address in the 1939 register preview!

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Thank you for that information Daisy.

I guess this photo is taken around 1968, as part of the collection of photographs taken before the slum clearances? I found it in this wonderful facebook group "Friends of Edge Hill and Wavertree":
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... ater&ifg=1

The 1939 register tells the property (Harbord St 53) was vacant in that year.
What period do you think your dad owned the store Daisy?

And does anyone remember the shop "Sherbull ltd "? I temporarily don't have a subscription to ancestry, but will check the British Phone Books once I'm back.

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1964, Telephone Book.


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Thanks for checking Bert. Interesting to see these different addresses, perhaps the photo of the shop at corner Harbord St/Juno St is dated before 1964 then.. (if it's the same company) Or could it have been a storage space as well?

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Sherbull Ltd, Turf Accountants are betting shops, in those days, horse and dog racing. Betting shops only became legal in the UK in 1961. If the Sherbull in the photo is a betting shop, it dates it after 61.

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It certainly doesn't look like a shopping selling goods, in those days that would have been on display in the windows, so I would think you are right Bert.
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No number for Harbord St or Juno St, perhaps it did not have a phone.

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I think it's unlikely a bookmakers never had a phone, needed for security and business reasons.

1967 phonebook and no mention of Harbord/Juno

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Thank you Bert! Learned some new things again about the history of turf accountants/betting shops, very interesting. Especially since one of mythological Juno's epithets was "Moneta": money.

I checked my own documentation from last summer's visits to the Record Office, and saw I photographed the back of the image of the Sherbull/53 Harbord Street as well. The photo apparently was taken on 29 March 1966 by the City Engineers Dept.

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Thanks Juno,

I suspected it was 53, near to at least 2 Public Houses from where the inebriated could go and lose all their money, also noticed the statutory lamp post where they could hang themselves when they did :wink:
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Bert :D :D :D

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Daisy 3 wrote:
10 Dec 2017 00:11
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, my dad's shop was indeed a second hand shop,situated on Chatsworth st, he sold second hand furniture, tools, household goods indeed anything that people needed or wanted to sell, it was hard times. He had premises on the corner of Juno St and Harboard St which were used only
as an overflow for the shop. If I remember correctly the store as we called it was only one room ,which must have been a shop at sometime, certainly not big enough to have been a house. Hope some of this helps.

Regards Daisy
Dear Daisy,

I've sent you a private message about this old conversation, which I hope you will receive in good order!

Looking forward to chat further, Best regards,
Rosa Juno

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