Liverpool deposition Thomas Lewis

[triciag]

Hi I am wondering if it is possible to find out anymore information regarding this deposition or whether it would have been covered in a local newspaper? It reads as following.
Liverpool deposition. Information of Thomas Lewis copper smith re: prosecution of John Black, Joesph Cropper,Edward Barr, Humphrey Humphreys, John Davis and John Jones apprentices to John Sutherland copper smith and brass founder for assault. Apr 21 1818.
My Thomas Lewis was married to Hannah Handy. I have not been able to find any information out about the couple after this date. They had serveral children before this date and I'm pretty sure they had another child after 1818 but have not been able to prove it. Their children were still in Liverpool in the 1830's but I can not find a death of Hannah or Thomas.
They lived on Bath Street on most records if this helps?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Tricia

[Blue70]

Hi Tricia,

Welcome to the forum. What's the source of the information about the deposition? There doesn't appear to be a mention in the local newspaper.


Blue

[triciag]

It came from searching on the National Archives site. It says QSP/2735/26

[MaryA]

Hi and welcome to the forum.

I have been unable to find any mention of this incident online in the Liverpool Mercury, although the Old Newspapers site is behaving a little badly today and so might not actually be throwing up the correct search results. Could I suggest that you might like to google Lancashire Library and join this, your membership gives you access through their site to both 19th and 18th Century newspapers. You would then be able to browse as well as do a data search.

We have tried to collate a list of cemeteries and the dates they opened, this can be found here http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... =14&t=5739 I have checked entries in the Gibsons Epitaphs without success for Thomas and Handy but this may only means that there was no headstone for their graves.

Did you know that Civil Registration began only in 1837, so if you think they may have died before that date there obviously won't be an entry - you don't say where you have searched for a death?

My suggestion would be to check out the links on the Old Mersey Times site - link on the page I gave above for Cemeteries, Graves & MI's, I know there are a lot of pages but it is one of the best sites for checking early records. Best way is to open the page and do a Alt E - Find search of the page.

I have checked Gores Directory for 1827, Baines 1825, 1773, 1767 and 1766 without finding an entry for Thomas, however in Gores Directory of 1790 there is a possible entry for Thomas Lewis, iron founder, back of 14, Sir Thomas' buildings.

I'm sorry to have come up with so many negative results, but at least you can discount some things.

[MaryA]

The National Archives isn't the easiest to navigate glad you found an entry. Is there not a facility to acquire more information of this deposition?

[MaryA]

I have it now, it is on the A2A site with the advice that the documents are held at the Lancashire Record Office. Contact details are on this page http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/arch ... .asp?LR=55

[dickiesam]

Background... Children's baptisms from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Baptism: 21 May 1809 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Lewis - Son of Thomas Lewis & Hannah (formerly Handy), His Wife
Born: 27 Apr
Abode: Bath Street
Occupation: Copper Smith
Register: Baptisms 1809, Page 383, Entry 649

Baptism: 21 Jun 1812 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Lewis - Son of Thomas Lewis & His Wife Hannah (formerly Handy)
Born: 28 Mar 1812
Abode: Bath Street
Occupation: Copper Smith
Register: Baptisms 1812, Page 48, Entry 291

Baptism: 26 Jul 1816 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jane Lewis - [Child] of Thomas Lewis & Hannah
Abode: Bath Street
Occupation: Coppersmith
Baptised by: P. Bulmer Curate
Register: Baptisms 1815 - 1816, Page 200, Entry 1596

Baptism: 26 Jul 1816 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Joseph Handy Lewis - [Child] of Thomas Lewis & Hannah
Abode: Bath Street
Occupation: Coppersmith
Baptised by: P. Bulmer Curate
Register: Baptisms 1815 - 1816, Page 200, Entry 1597

[dickiesam]

More background...

Marriage:
THOMAS LEWIS
26th Jan 1806
Bride: Hannah Handy
Bride Parish: Liverpool
Groom Parish: Liverpool
Place: LIVERPOOL
Bride Condition: Spinster
By Licence: Banns
Description: St Anne Richmond
Groom Occupation: Coppersmith