Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Many thanks, Blue. As you will see from my other responses, Perry was definitely supposed to have been there in 1852. However, the listing of Hornby as merchants makes me raise an eyebrow. The Liverpool Hornby's were highly respected watchmakers for many years and I wonder if H & J were of the same ...

Many thanks, Bert. I had seen the forum discussion you linked in your reply - 12 years on and nobody is any further forward. The directory pages that you and Blue sent me are interesting. As you will see from my response to Mary A, Robert Perry was definitely associated with Exchange Buildings in No...

I'm surprised there is a complete lack of him in directories. Hi Mary. It's weird, isn't it. This has been baffling some of us in the horological community for some years (on both sides of The Pond). An advert in the Boston Daily Atlas in November 1852 states quite clearly that Bigelow Brothers & K...

The Robert W Perry in Manchester is born 1827 in Liverpool according to Census records. Would not fit with being a watchmaker in 1830's. Many thanks for helping to eliminate this one. Not sure how I missed that point but then I have only recently discovered that the Robert Perry name in question go...

I have a two-part question about the above and hope that members might have some ideas. First, Robert Perry was a prolific and potentially important Liverpool watchmaker, with production spanning at least between the 1830s and 1850s. The only problem is that nobody in the horological world has evide...

Hi Blue,

Yes, you are quite right. I doubt that many will go through all the footnotes either but the journal is archived and future researchers might find the references helpful.

Mike.

Hi all, It is a bit of a mess but I acknowledge that for most of the journal members won't notice what has gone wrong. In fact the formatting has shifted throughout virtually all of it and this really shows up best on pages 235 and 237 - look at how the text looks immediately below the photos. The r...

The December edition of the journal arrived on my doorstep today and I gave it a quick glance (as the editor, I have already read and re-read the content a number of times before sending the copy to the printer). I couldn't help but notice that the formatting was hopelessly awry in one of the main a...

I haven't been on the forum for a little while but noticed this post about old Castle Street. You might like to see the image of Castle Street circa 1831 in my article for Antiquarian Horology here - http://www.ahsoc.org/media/assets/file/Paice_on_Moncas-wm6.pdf As you will see, I have estimated whe...

My Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfather Edward Bellion born St Helens c1808 died Liverpool 1868 was a Clock & Watchmaker in Liverpool Blue I hadn't come across Edward before but there is a picture of a rather nice William Bellion watch movement here: http://www.horologist.co.uk/selected.htm Is Wi...

What a well researched and illustrated article, thanks Mike, very informative and I suspect we may be seeing it in a journal in the near future? :lol: I think I have warned our members that they might end up with an article or two in the journal about my Liverpool ancestors, if I run short of copy....

I thought that some of you might be interested in seeing a paper about my main Liverpool ancestors - the Moncas family. The paper is a short history of the watchmaking members of that family - which started with my 3xgreat grandfather John Moncas. I prepared the article for a learned society known a...

Good point, Hilary. I will include that detail in the reply that goes into the journal.

Thank you all for your help with this query. I have prepared the following answer to the query our member raised: Susan - It appears that the parish of Walton-on-the-Hill was considerably larger in times before our map was drawn. It included, for example, the areas that we now consider to be Childwa...

Hi all, I have received a letter from one of our members in Australia, raising a very valid question. She has asked it before (in 2005) but nobody seems to have been able to answer, so she thought that she would try again. The member in question doesn't have a computer/email, so I thought I would as...

Now deceased Online has published all the burial and cremation records for Brompton Cemetery in west London, don't forget to check for your Liverpool strays. I finally discovered that that is the final resting place of two of my Liverpool ancestors John Moncas and his wife Catharine (nee Harrison) a...

Sometimes you don't need to know someone long to know that they're a good soul. Thanks to his support I have taken on the editor role with confidence. Thanks to his friendship I have learned a lot quickly. He will be greatly missed by me and everyone who knew him. R.I.P. Peter - God bless.

Mike.

Thanks for the great feedback on the March 2013 edition - we did have some great articles and it's the members' literary efforts that make the journal as good as it is. I am confident that the next edition will have some great articles too but let's keep them coming in - I can't do it without you al...

Catharine died on 7 March 1854 (just six months after her husband). By the time she died, the family were living in London - over their bookshop in Holywell Street. Her death certificate shows her age as 66 years - a pretty close fit to the second Catharine you highlight.

Hi Hilary. Sorry for the delay in responding. You have the right John Moncas and related information. John's father (Thomas) died on 18 June 1793. His mother (Hannah nee Abbot) carried on the business (grocer/upholsterer) and re-married on 24 February 1796 (an ironmonger named Joseph Fogg). I have b...